Re: [gnome-flashback] GNOME Flashback 3.26+



On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Alberts Muktupāvels <alberts muktupavels gmail com> wrote:
Hi,

That PPA was created to test latest upstream changes. Maybe it might be good idea to create PPA for last stable release...

Are you using 17.04? Or on what ubuntu versions you will / want test?

Yes. Ubuntu 17.04. 




Weather-applet doesn't work. It doesn't show any weather data.

More info please. It seems to work for me with 3.25, but since there has not been changes to weather applet that should change nothing.

Ignore what I said about weather-applet. It was system-resolved problem. For development version, Ubuntu set 
DNSSEC=allow-downgrade in /etc/systemd/resove.conf which could not resolve many websites. I disabled resolved and started using dnsmasq.
Weather-applet is working now.


Heavy screen flickering for csd windows under compiz. 

Again, more info needed, but sounds like something that is not GNOME Flashback problem. Or is it gtk-window-decorator only bug?

Not sure. It could be anything, graphics, kernel etc. But I can't reproduce under unity. I use intel 965/4400 with 4GB RAM at my workplace.


1. Window resize area for csd windows under compiz. To tackle the problem, Mate give us mate-compiz plugin which uses transparent resize areas.
May be you could do the same? As of now csd windows under compiz is completely useless.

Link to plugin? Don't know anything about it...

compiz-mate is forked from compiz-gnome which uses gtk-window-decorator. See here:

https://www.kryogenix.org/days/2017/04/01/enable-compiz-in-ubuntu-mate-to-fix-dragging-the-window-borders/



There is only one animation - minimize. I don't like it too, but not sure what to do about it. I have thought about doing this:
- remove animation when compositor is not used / disabled
- create better animation for compositor, probably with option to disable it.

I like the idea. Filed a bug here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781055




Link, more info? For window spread thing in marco... What version added it? Did quick look in git history and did not find anything related.

Ah right. It's not marco but marco-compton. Compton gives gpu compositing which then can be used with anything like  Skippy-XD or
brightside. But I guess we can also use compton in flashback. No? (I just don't want to use buggy compiz for this single feature.)



2. No GUI to change metacity theme.

Yes, this is problem...

Ideally we could create plugin for GNOME Control Center, but not sure if this happen because this requires that control center restores external plugins.

Other option might be to create GNOME Flashback Tweak tool, but one option is not enough...

A plugin for for control center would be nice. :)



3. Absence of a default global menu applet.

Is not global menu ubuntu thing?

Not really. Global menu is very popular in other desktop-environments.
For example top-menu (https://git.javispedro.com/cgit/topmenu-gtk.git/about/) can be used with mate, xfce, lxde panel.
For gnome-panel we have indicator-applet-appmenu which is designed to use with unity in the
first place and hence causes problems. There is new vala-panel-appmenu (https://github.com/rilian-la-te/vala-panel-appmenu) which also 
uses unity's gtk module, but I am not sure if it can be used with gnome-panel.



4. When I use vnc session in remmina, I can not send keystroke (modifier + key) to other machine even 
when "grab-keyborad" options is enabled. may be something to do with gnome-settings-daemon?

What version you are using? GNOME Flashback in Ubuntu for some time used unity-settings-deamon and only with 17.04 we are switching back to gnome-settings-daemon.

Gnome-Flashback 3.25 from PPA on Ubuntu 17.04. I updated right after the 3.24 release and haven't update since then.

Note: Normal keys are working fine. Problem arises only when I use some specific key combination:
SUPER + W, Fn + ALT + Print-Screen....etc.


Also might be good to know version when it last worked.

It works in Ubuntu 16.04.


Upstream has already gtk+ theme as default because metacity does not have any metacity themes these days... In Ubuntu we are forced to use metacity theme, because Ambiance does not have proper support for csd windows.

IMHO, Ambiance is very bad default choice. There are other themes in the repo which supports headerbar better.


Thanks. 


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