Re: Status for the release

["Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)" <zeeshanak gnome org>]

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Alexander Larsson <alexl redhat com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 15:29 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote:
>> On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 14:55 +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alexander Larsson <alexl redhat com> wrote:
>> > > It certainly makes a lot more sense to have this in the properties page.
>> > > In fact thats where i went looking for it.
>> >
>> > We alreay have context-specific menu entries: fullscreen, properties.
>> > To me "force shutdown" is not a "under the hood" action or a property,
>> > rather something that should be available immediately when using a
>> > Box, somewhere close to the topbar. But I'll let designer sort out
>> > this issue, as I don't have stronger arguments.
>>
>> I don't have an opinion as to how "under the hood" the action is, but
>> the app menu just doesn't seem to be made for actions that affect i.e.
>> whats currently selected in one of the apps windows, but rather toplevel
>> things like: About, help, open new window, quit app, perferences.
>>
>> However, I see that in this mockup:
>> https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/boxes/boxes-menu.png
>> the "properties" menu item is there, which seems to be a similar kind of
>> context-sensitive operation as "force shutdown", so I'm also not sure
>> what the deal is.
>>
>> So, whats the right place? App menu, toolbar, or propertied page. I
>> guess we need to designers to fight it out!
>
> I asked jimmac, and here is the new mockup:
> https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/boxes/boxes-properties.png

Looks good but I wonder if it will work because when you want to force
shutdown a VM, its most probably hung and I'm not sure one can connect
to the VM when its hung (especially if its qemu thats hung, not the
guest). Properties view currently can only be  reached when you are
connected to the VM AFAIK.

Maybe we should have a context-menu that gives either or both of
'force-shutdown' and 'Properties' option?

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Regards,

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
FSF member#5124