Re: New to List



My strengths are not in programming, but I could put together a video of several people who have disabilities using expensive proprietary software to illustrate what sort of functionality we are talking about for folks. 

Let me know if you would like me to.

~Will

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:00 PM Eitan Isaacson <eitan monotonous org> wrote:
Caribou was designed to be a replacement for GOK and support scanning features as well. I think there may be some support buried in there that I started work on. It's been a while...

Anyway, speech recognition sounds like a great idea too.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:34 AM, William Best <standard7452 gmail com> wrote:
Well I suppose that I will try to join their next meeting.  Is anyone else interested in doing so?

Will

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting kde org> wrote:
Seems to be here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM, William Best <standard7452 gmail com> wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Where is the site for the GNOME Accessibility Team located?
>
> Thanks!
> Will
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM William Best <standard7452 gmail com>
> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I am familiar with GOK, and actually tracked down the original authors of
>> that software.  I believe they were from the University of Toronto, and were
>> no longer interested in doing that.  I am not sure about caribou.  I think a
>> nice solution would be to integrate switch/pointer access in conjunction
>> with speech recognition.
>>
>> This is a software application that some of the people I work with use:
>> http://goo.gl/43Mev6
>>
>> It is nearly $1000 USD though.
>>
>> I think there has to be someone out there with the skills to create
>> something like this as an open source project.  That is what I would like to
>> help accomplish.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Will
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Will,
>>>
>>> Not sure, not much into Gnome specific development, but in the past
>>> there were efforts devoted to a project called GOK [1]. It was a
>>> on-screen keyboard which supported scanning access. It seems that now it
>>> has been replaced by Caribou [2]. Not sure about its current status. The
>>> folks involved in this project might provide you more insight.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/idp5239184.html
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Caribou?action="">
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> César
>>>
>>> El 29/05/2015 a las 17:37, William Best escribió:
>>> > Cesar,
>>> >
>>> > I am going to try out your Viacam project with one of my individuals
>>> > at the beginning of next week.
>>> >
>>> > I would like to get a project going that would bring switch access to
>>> > Gnome via a programmable on-screen keyboard.
>>> >
>>> > How can something like this get started?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > Will
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM Cesar Mauri <
cesar crea-si com
>>> > <mailto:cesar crea-si com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Welcome William,
>>> >
>>> >     I've been working with people with cerebral palsy for more than ten
>>> >     years and I maintain the Enable Viacam [1] open source project.
>>> >     Here in
>>> >     Spain I'm also involved in this project [2] (web page in Spanish,
>>> >     sorry)
>>> >     in which we try to improve the social participation of people with
>>> >     cerebral palsy through the use of technology.
>>> >
>>> >     In my view, there is still a lot to be done and, in general,
>>> >     accessibility is always lagging behind the pace of innovation,
>>> >     even more
>>> >     in the FOSS arena. Unfortunately, most "state of the art" assistive
>>> >     technology is privative and, often, scandalously expensive, as you
>>> >     already know.
>>> >
>>> >     As for speech recognition, we also had little success with people
>>> > with
>>> >     cerebral palsy due to their speech disorders (dysarthria). In most
>>> >     cases
>>> >     we have to rely on other input methods such as alternative
>>> > keyboards,
>>> >     mouses, joysticks or even switches and scanning techniques. Up to
>>> > our
>>> >     knowledge, best solutions for specialised scanning access and AAC
>>> > are
>>> >     only available for Windows and, in general, privative. One
>>> >     exception is
>>> >     SAW (Special Access to Windows) [3], very powerful but only for
>>> >     Windows
>>> >     and hard to use for most people. It would great if we had
>>> >     something like
>>> >     SAW but easy to use and available for FOSS environments. And this
>>> > is
>>> >     just an example. Also open to collaborate.
>>> >
>>> >     [1] http://viacam.org
>>> >     [2] http://aspacenet.aspace.org/
>>> >     [3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/sawat/
>>> >
>>> >     Regards,
>>> >
>>> >     César
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     El 29/05/2015 a las 15:17, William Best escribió:
>>> >     > Eric,
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I would love to help you with your project where I can. My
>>> > strengths
>>> >     > are not in writing code per se, but I understand the issues you
>>> >     face.
>>> >     > I work with 120 individuals with all forms of disabilities.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > How successful have you been with using voice recognition using
>>> >     > Windows?  I have had limited success with voice recognition
>>> >     technology
>>> >     > in my work.  This is mostly due to the people who have physical
>>> >     > disabilities have cerebral palsy which also presents speech
>>> > problems
>>> >     > in these cases.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Access is difficult for folks with disabilities, and my goal is
>>> > to
>>> >     > collaborate with others to create open source versions of some
>>> > very
>>> >     > expensive propriety software systems.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Could you send a video of you using your setup so I can
>>> >     visualize it?
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Thanks!
>>> >     > Will
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM Eric Johansson <esj eggo org
>>> >     <mailto:esj eggo org>
>>> >     > <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>>> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Welcome to the list. I joined because I am disabled and
>>> >     >     unfortunately the accessibility models currently available
>>> >     do not
>>> >     >     help me in the slightest. I was hoping to find the time to
>>> > serve
>>> >     >     my own needs which I know would serve the needs of other
>>> > people
>>> >     >     like myself with upper extremities disabilities and dependent
>>> > on
>>> >     >     speech recognition.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Best laid plans etc cetera. :-)
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Here's where I'm at and I could use some help.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     the only really useful speech recognition environment right
>>> >     now is
>>> >     >     nuances naturally speaking followed closely by Microsoft.
>>> >     >     obviously the main problem is they only run on Windows.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     I have set up a prototype of a working environment where I
>>> > run
>>> >     >     Windows as a virtual machine dedicated solely to speech
>>> >     >     recognition. Then I have a bridge which transfers key codes
>>> > or
>>> >     >     other types of speech events over to Linux from windows.
>>> > Right
>>> >     >     now, I've been somewhat successful with injecting speech
>>> >     generated
>>> >     >     characters into Linux applications. I'm working on the next
>>> >     >     generation now and running into problems with uinput.  as
>>> >     soon as
>>> >     >     i fix those problems, using the community developed macro
>>> >     >     environment, we will have a reasonably useful speech
>>> > recognition
>>> >     >     system driving Linux.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     What I mean by reasonably useful is that I can drive emacs,
>>> >     write
>>> >     >     prose and a bit of code. With any luck, that would only be a
>>> >     >     stone's throw away from being able to execute code on the
>>> > Linux
>>> >     >     side as a result of interpreting a grammar on the Windows
>>> > side.
>>> >     >     The remote execution capability would put us on a parity with
>>> >     >     what's available on Windows.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Anyway, if you'd like to help, I would welcome assistance.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     On May 29, 2015 8:29 AM, William Best
>>> >     <standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>
>>> >     >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com
>>> >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>> wrote:
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > Hello,
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > My name is William Best.  I am not sure if this is the
>>> > right
>>> >     >     group to join
>>> >     >     > for how I would like to contribute.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > My passion/career involves helping people with
>>> > developmental
>>> >     >     disabilities
>>> >     >     > get better access to technology.  Over the past year or so,
>>> > I
>>> >     >     have been
>>> >     >     > experimenting with different Linux distributions to come
>>> >     up with a
>>> >     >     > low-cost, stable, and robust solution for the disabled
>>> >     people I
>>> >     >     work with.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > My goal is to help get features/apps that would help
>>> > disabled
>>> >     >     people access
>>> >     >     > technology in a better way.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > Let me know if I am in the right group for this.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > Thanks!
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
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