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Brian,

Where is the site for the GNOME Accessibility Team located?

Thanks!
Will



On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM William Best <standard7452 gmail com> wrote:
All,

I am familiar with GOK, and actually tracked down the original authors of that software.  I believe they were from the University of Toronto, and were no longer interested in doing that.  I am not sure about caribou.  I think a nice solution would be to integrate switch/pointer access in conjunction with speech recognition.

This is a software application that some of the people I work with use: http://goo.gl/43Mev6

It is nearly $1000 USD though.

I think there has to be someone out there with the skills to create something like this as an open source project.  That is what I would like to help accomplish.

Thanks!
Will

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com> wrote:
Will,

Not sure, not much into Gnome specific development, but in the past
there were efforts devoted to a project called GOK [1]. It was a
on-screen keyboard which supported scanning access. It seems that now it
has been replaced by Caribou [2]. Not sure about its current status. The
folks involved in this project might provide you more insight.

[1]
https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/idp5239184.html
[2]
https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Caribou?action="">

Regards,

César

El 29/05/2015 a las 17:37, William Best escribió:
> Cesar,
>
> I am going to try out your Viacam project with one of my individuals
> at the beginning of next week.
>
> I would like to get a project going that would bring switch access to
> Gnome via a programmable on-screen keyboard.
>
> How can something like this get started?
>
> Thanks!
> Will
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM Cesar Mauri <
cesar crea-si com
> <mailto:cesar crea-si com>> wrote:
>
>     Welcome William,
>
>     I've been working with people with cerebral palsy for more than ten
>     years and I maintain the Enable Viacam [1] open source project.
>     Here in
>     Spain I'm also involved in this project [2] (web page in Spanish,
>     sorry)
>     in which we try to improve the social participation of people with
>     cerebral palsy through the use of technology.
>
>     In my view, there is still a lot to be done and, in general,
>     accessibility is always lagging behind the pace of innovation,
>     even more
>     in the FOSS arena. Unfortunately, most "state of the art" assistive
>     technology is privative and, often, scandalously expensive, as you
>     already know.
>
>     As for speech recognition, we also had little success with people with
>     cerebral palsy due to their speech disorders (dysarthria). In most
>     cases
>     we have to rely on other input methods such as alternative keyboards,
>     mouses, joysticks or even switches and scanning techniques. Up to our
>     knowledge, best solutions for specialised scanning access and AAC are
>     only available for Windows and, in general, privative. One
>     exception is
>     SAW (Special Access to Windows) [3], very powerful but only for
>     Windows
>     and hard to use for most people. It would great if we had
>     something like
>     SAW but easy to use and available for FOSS environments. And this is
>     just an example. Also open to collaborate.
>
>     [1] http://viacam.org
>     [2] http://aspacenet.aspace.org/
>     [3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/sawat/
>
>     Regards,
>
>     César
>
>
>     El 29/05/2015 a las 15:17, William Best escribió:
>     > Eric,
>     >
>     > I would love to help you with your project where I can. My strengths
>     > are not in writing code per se, but I understand the issues you
>     face.
>     > I work with 120 individuals with all forms of disabilities.
>     >
>     > How successful have you been with using voice recognition using
>     > Windows?  I have had limited success with voice recognition
>     technology
>     > in my work.  This is mostly due to the people who have physical
>     > disabilities have cerebral palsy which also presents speech problems
>     > in these cases.
>     >
>     > Access is difficult for folks with disabilities, and my goal is to
>     > collaborate with others to create open source versions of some very
>     > expensive propriety software systems.
>     >
>     > Could you send a video of you using your setup so I can
>     visualize it?
>     >
>     > Thanks!
>     > Will
>     >
>     > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM Eric Johansson <esj eggo org
>     <mailto:esj eggo org>
>     > <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Welcome to the list. I joined because I am disabled and
>     >     unfortunately the accessibility models currently available
>     do not
>     >     help me in the slightest. I was hoping to find the time to serve
>     >     my own needs which I know would serve the needs of other people
>     >     like myself with upper extremities disabilities and dependent on
>     >     speech recognition.
>     >
>     >     Best laid plans etc cetera. :-)
>     >
>     >     Here's where I'm at and I could use some help.
>     >
>     >     the only really useful speech recognition environment right
>     now is
>     >     nuances naturally speaking followed closely by Microsoft.
>     >     obviously the main problem is they only run on Windows.
>     >
>     >     I have set up a prototype of a working environment where I run
>     >     Windows as a virtual machine dedicated solely to speech
>     >     recognition. Then I have a bridge which transfers key codes or
>     >     other types of speech events over to Linux from windows. Right
>     >     now, I've been somewhat successful with injecting speech
>     generated
>     >     characters into Linux applications. I'm working on the next
>     >     generation now and running into problems with uinput.  as
>     soon as
>     >     i fix those problems, using the community developed macro
>     >     environment, we will have a reasonably useful speech recognition
>     >     system driving Linux.
>     >
>     >     What I mean by reasonably useful is that I can drive emacs,
>     write
>     >     prose and a bit of code. With any luck, that would only be a
>     >     stone's throw away from being able to execute code on the Linux
>     >     side as a result of interpreting a grammar on the Windows side.
>     >     The remote execution capability would put us on a parity with
>     >     what's available on Windows.
>     >
>     >     Anyway, if you'd like to help, I would welcome assistance.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On May 29, 2015 8:29 AM, William Best
>     <standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>
>     >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com
>     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > Hello,
>     >     >
>     >     > My name is William Best.  I am not sure if this is the right
>     >     group to join
>     >     > for how I would like to contribute.
>     >     >
>     >     > My passion/career involves helping people with developmental
>     >     disabilities
>     >     > get better access to technology.  Over the past year or so, I
>     >     have been
>     >     > experimenting with different Linux distributions to come
>     up with a
>     >     > low-cost, stable, and robust solution for the disabled
>     people I
>     >     work with.
>     >     >
>     >     > My goal is to help get features/apps that would help disabled
>     >     people access
>     >     > technology in a better way.
>     >     >
>     >     > Let me know if I am in the right group for this.
>     >     >
>     >     > Thanks!
>     >
>     >
>     >
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