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Hi,
I know The Grid, we have several users of this software. Here costs around 500€. Is far from perfect, but reasonably easy to use and adaptable to extreme cases (support for eye trackers, multiple scanning options, etc.). It would be great to have something like that as open source. 

Regards,

César

El 29/05/2015 a las 18:15, William Best escribió:

All,
I am familiar with GOK, and actually tracked down the original authors of that software. I believe they were from the University of Toronto, and were no longer interested in doing that. I am not sure about caribou. I think a nice solution would be to integrate switch/pointer access in conjunction with speech recognition.
This is a software application that some of the people I work with use: http://goo.gl/43Mev6 

It is nearly $1000 USD though.
I think there has to be someone out there with the skills to create something like this as an open source project. That is what I would like to help accomplish. 

Thanks!
Will
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com <mailto:cesar crea-si com>> wrote: 

    Will,

    Not sure, not much into Gnome specific development, but in the past
    there were efforts devoted to a project called GOK [1]. It was a
    on-screen keyboard which supported scanning access. It seems that
    now it
    has been replaced by Caribou [2]. Not sure about its current
    status. The
    folks involved in this project might provide you more insight.

    [1]
    https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/idp5239184.html
    [2]
    https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Caribou?action=show&redirect=Caribou

    Regards,

    César

    El 29/05/2015 a las 17:37, William Best escribió:
    > Cesar,
    >
    > I am going to try out your Viacam project with one of my individuals
    > at the beginning of next week.
    >
    > I would like to get a project going that would bring switch
    access to
    > Gnome via a programmable on-screen keyboard.
    >
    > How can something like this get started?
    >
    > Thanks!
    > Will
    >
    > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com
    <mailto:cesar crea-si com>
    > <mailto:cesar crea-si com <mailto:cesar crea-si com>>> wrote:
    >
    >     Welcome William,
    >
    >     I've been working with people with cerebral palsy for more
    than ten
    >     years and I maintain the Enable Viacam [1] open source project.
    >     Here in
    >     Spain I'm also involved in this project [2] (web page in
    Spanish,
    >     sorry)
    >     in which we try to improve the social participation of
    people with
    >     cerebral palsy through the use of technology.
    >
    >     In my view, there is still a lot to be done and, in general,
    >     accessibility is always lagging behind the pace of innovation,
    >     even more
    >     in the FOSS arena. Unfortunately, most "state of the art"
    assistive
    >     technology is privative and, often, scandalously expensive,
    as you
    >     already know.
    >
    >     As for speech recognition, we also had little success with
    people with
    >     cerebral palsy due to their speech disorders (dysarthria).
    In most
    >     cases
    >     we have to rely on other input methods such as alternative
    keyboards,
    >     mouses, joysticks or even switches and scanning techniques.
    Up to our
    >     knowledge, best solutions for specialised scanning access
    and AAC are
    >     only available for Windows and, in general, privative. One
    >     exception is
    >     SAW (Special Access to Windows) [3], very powerful but only for
    >     Windows
    >     and hard to use for most people. It would great if we had
    >     something like
    >     SAW but easy to use and available for FOSS environments. And
    this is
    >     just an example. Also open to collaborate.
    >
    >     [1] http://viacam.org
    >     [2] http://aspacenet.aspace.org/
    >     [3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/sawat/
    >
    >     Regards,
    >
    >     César
    >
    >
    >     El 29/05/2015 a las 15:17, William Best escribió:
    >     > Eric,
    >     >
    >     > I would love to help you with your project where I can. My
    strengths
    >     > are not in writing code per se, but I understand the
    issues you
    >     face.
    >     > I work with 120 individuals with all forms of disabilities.
    >     >
    >     > How successful have you been with using voice recognition
    using
    >     > Windows?  I have had limited success with voice recognition
    >     technology
    >     > in my work.  This is mostly due to the people who have
    physical
    >     > disabilities have cerebral palsy which also presents
    speech problems
    >     > in these cases.
    >     >
    >     > Access is difficult for folks with disabilities, and my
    goal is to
    >     > collaborate with others to create open source versions of
    some very
    >     > expensive propriety software systems.
    >     >
    >     > Could you send a video of you using your setup so I can
    >     visualize it?
    >     >
    >     > Thanks!
    >     > Will
    >     >
    >     > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM Eric Johansson
    <esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>
    >     <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>>
    >     > <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>
    <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>>>> wrote:
    >     >
    >     >     Welcome to the list. I joined because I am disabled and
    >     >     unfortunately the accessibility models currently available
    >     do not
    >     >     help me in the slightest. I was hoping to find the
    time to serve
    >     >     my own needs which I know would serve the needs of
    other people
    >     >     like myself with upper extremities disabilities and
    dependent on
    >     >     speech recognition.
    >     >
    >     >     Best laid plans etc cetera. :-)
    >     >
    >     >     Here's where I'm at and I could use some help.
    >     >
    >     >     the only really useful speech recognition environment
    right
    >     now is
    >     >     nuances naturally speaking followed closely by Microsoft.
    >     >     obviously the main problem is they only run on Windows.
    >     >
    >     >     I have set up a prototype of a working environment
    where I run
    >     >     Windows as a virtual machine dedicated solely to speech
    >     >     recognition. Then I have a bridge which transfers key
    codes or
    >     >     other types of speech events over to Linux from
    windows. Right
    >     >     now, I've been somewhat successful with injecting speech
    >     generated
    >     >     characters into Linux applications. I'm working on the
    next
    >     >     generation now and running into problems with uinput.  as
    >     soon as
    >     >     i fix those problems, using the community developed macro
    >     >     environment, we will have a reasonably useful speech
    recognition
    >     >     system driving Linux.
    >     >
    >     >     What I mean by reasonably useful is that I can drive
    emacs,
    >     write
    >     >     prose and a bit of code. With any luck, that would
    only be a
    >     >     stone's throw away from being able to execute code on
    the Linux
    >     >     side as a result of interpreting a grammar on the
    Windows side.
    >     >     The remote execution capability would put us on a
    parity with
    >     >     what's available on Windows.
    >     >
    >     >     Anyway, if you'd like to help, I would welcome assistance.
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >     On May 29, 2015 8:29 AM, William Best
    >     <standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>
    <mailto:standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>
    >     >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com
    <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>
    >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com
    <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>>> wrote:
    >     >     >
    >     >     > Hello,
    >     >     >
    >     >     > My name is William Best.  I am not sure if this is
    the right
    >     >     group to join
    >     >     > for how I would like to contribute.
    >     >     >
    >     >     > My passion/career involves helping people with
    developmental
    >     >     disabilities
    >     >     > get better access to technology.  Over the past year
    or so, I
    >     >     have been
    >     >     > experimenting with different Linux distributions to come
    >     up with a
    >     >     > low-cost, stable, and robust solution for the disabled
    >     people I
    >     >     work with.
    >     >     >
    >     >     > My goal is to help get features/apps that would help
    disabled
    >     >     people access
    >     >     > technology in a better way.
    >     >     >
    >     >     > Let me know if I am in the right group for this.
    >     >     >
    >     >     > Thanks!
    >     >
    >     >
    >     >
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