Re: Can the community work with Gnome to improve GTK+ a11y?

[Robert Cole <rkcole72984 gmail com>]

I hope that it is okay for me to reply here as well. I am not a 
developer or anything..just an end user for the time being.

One example of these greyed out menus is in Totem. Under the Movie menu, 
two menu items are greyed out: Eject and Play/Pause. I use a screen 
magnifier at times, so the greyed out menus are visible to me, but I 
just observed with keyboard navigation and saw that, as I arrowed down 
through the menus, that the menu items mentioned before are completely 
skipped over.

From an end user perspective, especially in the case of more complex 
programs, it could be confusing and even frustrating to try to find a 
certain menu and for it to not be present.

I guess that what I am trying to say is that the greyed out menus are 
not so much a problem for sighted users, as they are able to see what 
options are available to them in a specific program. Blind individuals 
who primarily use screen readers, however, are kind of at a loss because 
they may be looking for a certain feature but would not know of its 
existence, especially if they are completely new to using a particular 
program.

I'm sorry for the rambling. I just wanted to ad in my two cents as I 
will very likely will not be able to use screen magnification at all in 
the future.

Thanks for reading, and I apologize if I should have just kept quiet.

Take care.

On 01/01/2012 09:07 AM, Halim Sahin wrote:
> Hi,
> On So, Jan 01, 2012 at 01:59:58 -0500, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Regarding this one:
> >
> > > - Menus that are greyed out seem to not exist for screen reader users.
> > Well, in terms of navigation, they don't exist for anyone. I see them,
> > but I can't get at them physically. Whether or not greyed-out menus and
> > menu items should be navigable by all users is a question for the Gtk
> > developers.
> +1
> My opinion regarding this issue is:
> All menuitems should be navigable.
> Reason: Personalized menus or skipping inactive symbols making it hard
> for blind person to understand the layout of complex menus.
> Using flat review isn't a good choice here.
> Just my two cents
> halim
>
>
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