Re: Gnome menu



Hello.

The Super key is typically used as a term for the Windows key on a standard keyboard.

When an application is open, GNOME Shell displays a tab-like icon right next to the Activities Overview button on the top panel. This icon displays a thumbnail image for an application's icon as well as the name of the application relative to the currently focused window. For instance, my currently focused windows is the Thunderbird composition window. The icon on the top panel displays a small Thunderbird icon along with "Thunderbird" to the right. If I click on this icon I see a "Quit" option; this menu can also be accessed by using the Super+F10 key combination. I think that it is eventually intended that the applications' menus (File, Edit, View, etc) will be removed from the standard menu bar and will be placed as a drop-down menu of this top icon which I mentioned earlier.

Unless I am mistaken, I think that when someone makes references to the Applications menu, I think that many are referring to the traditional GNOME 2.x-style Applications menu. In GNOME Shell, there is the Applications view of the Activities Overview. When the Activities Overview is open, a Windows tab and an Applications tab are displayed below the top panel. One can get to these different areas (the Dash, the Windows view, the Applications view, and the Search area by using the CTRL+ALT+Tab key combination, pressing it multiple times until the desired area (Dash, Windows, Applications, etc) is reached, and then releasing it.

The other applications menu is the soon-to-be implemented (unless I am understanding incorrectly) GNOME-style Global Menu system which will move the traditional application menu bar (File, Edit, View, etc) to the top panel's icon for whichever application has the current focus.

I apologize. I feel like this could be explained better, but this is the best way which I can explain it right now. I hope that this makes some sense.

Take care, and have a great evening!

On 08/25/2012 05:16 PM, covici ccs covici com wrote:
Hi.  What  is super?  I tried alt-f1, but there is nothing on the
applications menu reached by that.  If I hit control-tab twice, I get to
a top panel and it says menu bar along with some other icons.  Is this
all by design?

Dylan McCall <dylanmccall gmail com> wrote:

That's a shame about the accident. I'm glad that GNOME and Debian have
worked for you until now.

The new menus _should_ be accessible. May you please explain what
about them isn't working out? I'm sure that would help to improve the
implementation. As it is, adding a toggle between the two menu layouts
is no simple task: with this menu redesign, the idea of grouping menu
items under things like "Edit" and "View" is going to drift away, so
even if the bits were in place it would be quite difficult to change
it back (especially dynamically).

If I was to guess, the biggest problem for keyboard-accessibility is
that the menus don't open with F10, so you have to reach them with
Tab. Is that the gist of the problem? That might be something to
mandate in the HIG (and maybe add at the toolkit level), because it
_is_ quite surprising. Google Chrome, for example, is keyboard
accessible: its wrench menu can be opened with the usual mnemonics
(Alt+F or Alt+E). They forgot that F10 is the _real_ common
menu-opening shortcut, but they did try :)

If you haven't already found it, the keyboard shortcut to get the
application menu (beside Activities at the top left of the screen) is
Super+F10. You can also use the left and right arrow keys to get
anywhere else on the top bar. Do you find that one works okay?

Thanks,

Dylan


On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, surma <surma hot ee> wrote:
I’ve been using debian since 27 March of 1996, before gnome everything was quite crappy, but I started using gnome 11 June 2000, and linux turned easy. Then (2004/2005) I had a terrible car accident, I got rammed, then I spent 6 months in coma, which messed up my hands, so I can’t use mouse, that’s why I prefer keyboard. Maake a place under gconf-editor where you can choose the style of menu, so people can use either classic or modern style.

That’s why I can’t use mouse.
http://www.hot.ee/surma/Surma_24.12.05.jpg
I built this car myself … and had an accident with it.

This is what was left of my car.
http://www.hot.ee/surma/katki.jpg
Tanel

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