Re: Dasher
- From: Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>
- To: Bryen <suseROCKS bryen com>
- Cc: Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>, David Bolter <dtb gnome org>, gnome-accessibility-list <gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Dasher
- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:36:23 -0400
Thanks, Bryen, for clarifying. I'm sorry I misunderstood. Of course
it's appropriate to remove applications no longer serving the intended
purpose for whatever reason.
Janina
Bryen writes:
> I certainly didn't mean to attempt to minimize the importance of Dasher
> with numerical values. I only meant to inquire whether it was still a
> viable tool to be used. In my opinion, all it takes is just one a11y
> user to say "Yes I need it." to make it part of the default
> installation.
>
> Bryen
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 14:09 -0400, David Bolter wrote:
> > Thanks Janina. Excellent point. And it is at the edges where innovation
> > often happens.
> >
> > For the record, my concern about knowing the number of GOK users is that
> > if there are resource decisions to be made that might impact them, it
> > would be good to know the potential damage. It worries me that I don't
> > have enough resources to give GOK the attention it deserves.
> >
> > That said I'm looking to mentor someone for a (co)maintainer role...
> >
> > cheers,
> > David
> >
> > Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Let's please not judge the value of Dasher, or any a11y package by
> > > number of users. This is a seriously slippery slope. By this reckoning
> > > a11y may as well go back into the closet. By definition, a11y is about
> > > edge cases, minimal user numbers, etc., etc. Else there would be no need
> > > for exception casing, because all applications would be tailored at
> > > screen readers, or at nonmouse input.
> > >
> > > A11y needs to be in the default package mix because it meets policy
> > > objectives, not because it is used by a majority of users. At the moment
> > > that includes Orca, Gok, and Dasher plus their dependencies.
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > Samuel Thibault writes:
> > >
> > >> Steve Lee, le Wed 19 Mar 2008 06:57:04 +0000, a écrit :
> > >>
> > >>> On 19/03/2008, Bryen <suseROCKS bryen com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Is Dasher a useful tool that is still needed as part of a distro's
> > >>>> default install?
> > >>>>
> > >>> Is there any way we can get an idea of numbers of users?
> > >>>
> > >> In Debian's popcon.debian.org, among 64688 votes, dasher was
> > >> voted 363 times.
> > >>
> > >> Samuel
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
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