Re: [Gimp-web] [New here] I would like to offer my help!

[Shlomi Fish <shlomif shlomifish org>]

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 18:18:52 +0300
Shlomi Fish <shlomif shlomifish org> wrote:

> Hi Pat,
>
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 09:52:25 -0500
> Pat David via gimp-web-list <gimp-web-list gnome org> wrote:
>
> > Hello Shlomi and Marco!
> >   
> > > 1. How is Hugo superior to Pelican wrt the gimp.org site?    
> >
> > There are a few ways (this is based roughly on a fun dive through various
> > static site generators over the last 6-7 years):
> >
> > 1. It's a self-contained binary for the generator. No other requirements or
> > dependencies.
> > 2. It's under very active development by the community and pushes updates
> > and security fixes almost every month (or a couple of times a month).
> > 3. It's FAST to build a site. Right now if you change something in gimp.org
> > with Pelican it takes around 3-4 minutes to build the site. Hugo has been
> > building in a few seconds (for some of the other sites I've done that are
> > not too far off in similar size).  
>
> Even if you change the inner content of a single page? I think using Pelican
> to build gimp.org (from scratch) was faster than 3 minutes here - I can check
> again.

Checked now: 17s for a first build; 12s for a rebuild:

```
Done: Processed 144 articles, 1 draft, 0 hidden articles, 111 pages, 38 
hidden pages and 0 draft pages in 17.25 seconds.
pelican -s pelicanconf.py  12.64s user 0.49s system 73% cpu 17.909 total
(py3-venv) [shlomif@telaviv1 gimp-web]$ time pelican -s pelicanconf.py >&
~/rebuild.txt
pelican -s pelicanconf.py >&~/rebuild.txt  12.35s user 0.47s system 99% cpu
12.902 total
(py3-venv) [shlomif@telaviv1 gimp-web]$ gvim ~/y2 
(py3-venv) [shlomif@telaviv1 gimp-web]$ inxi
CPU: Dual Core Intel Core i3-2100 (-MT MCP-) 
speed/min/max: 1596/1600/3100 MHz Kernel: 5.14.9-200.fc34.x86_64 x86_64 
Up: 2d 9h 5m Mem: 3137.4/7847.9 MiB (40.0%) 
Storage: 1.82 TiB (36.1% used) Procs: 232 Shell: Zsh inxi: 3.3.06 
(py3-venv) [shlomif@telaviv1 gimp-web]$ inxi -CSG
System:
  Host: telaviv1.shlomifish.org Kernel: 5.14.9-200.fc34.x86_64 x86_64 
  bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 Distro: Fedora release 34 (Thirty Four) 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-2100 bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache: 
  L2: 3 MiB 
  Speed: 1596 MHz min/max: 1600/3100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 
  2: 1627 3: 1625 4: 1596 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
driver: i915 v: kernel 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 21.1.8 
(py3-venv) [shlomif@telaviv1 gimp-web]$ 

```

> > 4. The source/output file organization is a better mental model of how a
> > site would normally be built (pages for directories, lists, etc etc - I had
> > to hack at Pelican to get the generator to build output similar to what was
> > sitting on disk.).
> > 5. Easy i18n support out of the box (this might require some modifications
> > to interface with po files to support marco, I'll look into it).
> > 6. Did I mention it's fast?
> > 7. We (pixls.us folks) have migrated all of the sites we're managing over
> > to Hugo already (just finished up the darktable.org migration) so it makes
> > it easier for me to ask other users to help out as they're already familar
> > with the tooling (asking them to look at pelican usually results in silence
> > in IRC... :D :D :D ).
> >
> > I have not gotten a consensus per se, other than to see if current people
> > hacking at it would be ok with it (nmat, maybe Jehan but I haven't bothered
> > him with this yet).
> >
> > Ultimately my hope would be that we can lower the barrier to entry for
> > creating content/posts on the site and possibly engage the broader
> > community more (one can hope...).
> >   
>
> All these sound like good reasons.



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