Re: [Gimp-gui] Force Toolbox Widgets To Bottom

[Jehan <jehan girinstud io>]

Hi,

On 2015-10-15 19:14, Elle Stone wrote:
> On 10/15/2015 12:41 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> > If I may suggest, we should work on a complete redesign of the toolbox
> > and tools' options. The way things are going, we are likely to create
> > another Frankenstein toolbox.
> >
> > What we are missing here is cold analysis. A lot of your requests stem
> > from resizing the toolbox. Frankly, GIMP is probably the only design
> > software I know of where people resize the toolbox at all. My guess is
> > that it's because its design sucks. How about we design it right
> > instead of applying bandaids all around?
> >
> > Alex
>
> Am I the only person who likes the Toolbox just the way it is?

Note that I don't say I dislike it, but that it can definitely be 
improved.

> Yes, I resize the Toolbox from time to time, and I find the ability to
> resize the Toolbox very handy, depending on whether I want more room
> for the image, or more room to read the layer names (I end up with
> large layer stacks, and so I label all the layers to keep track of
> what layer does what).
>
> I love being able to drop the dialogs that I want into the Toolbox,
> and the ability to rearrange them as seems convenient for the task at
> hand.
>
> I've used a lot of different image editing programs, including
> PhotoShop, and I've never understood all the complaints that GIMP
> should look more like PhotoShop, because to me it already looks pretty
> much the same, except I like the GIMP layout better.

Note that the goal of the GIMP team is certainly not to be a clone of 
Photoshop and none of our decisions shall be led by the fact Photoshop 
has or not a given feature or behavior.

For my own personal case, I don't even use Photoshop (I just stumble 
upon it from time to time on people's computer, and have not actually 
used it for real for maybe a dozen of years).

> I put the Toolbox in a long narrow strip along the left edge of the
> screen, leaving a large square area for the image. The screen is
> 1600x1200, and yes, that's not a small screen.
>
> Here's a screenshot showing the left edge of the screen, showing the
> Toolbox and an image window, in which I free up some vertical real
> estate by hiding the menu bar:
> http://ninedegreesbelow.com/bug-reports/gimp29/gimp-toolbox.png
>
> I'm having a difficult time imagining a more efficient layout for
> Tools than GIMP already has. (I don't mean Single-Window Mode, which
> seems to me to be completely unuseable, but different strokes for
> different folks).

This is actually refreshing to get comments from multi-window users. We 
have a lot more remarks from SWM leading us to think that they are more 
numerous (which may or may not be the case), even though I know that 
many multi-windows users of GIMP exist. They should manifest themselves 
more often for their workflows to be heard (so thanks for this message, 
by the way).

Jehan

> Best,
> Elle
>
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