Re: [Gimp-developer] Quick-edit workflow

[Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com>]

Hi,

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:49 PM, peter sikking <peter mmiworks net> wrote:
> Jehan wrote:
>
> > Just checking master, currently when "overwrite" is shown, export-to
> > is not grayed out but it is invisible.
> > That means that it is active and can be run if you know the shortcut,
> > but you can't export from the menu (for people who don't know
> > shortcuts, new or casual users, etc.).
> > Is it intended? I feel like this is a mistake and that "Export To"
> > should always show up in the menu.
> > I could easily fix this.
>
> yes this is intentional. the spec says:
>
> ‘The shortcut for the Export menu item shall remain active and map to invoking the Export As… command, 
> sneaky, but true.’
>
> I have done this so that users who press ctrl-E by habit are not
> stopped by nothing happening. Users who browse the menu see
> Export As... (the new label) and pick that.
>
> nobody gets hurt. things work as expected. sneaky, but true.
>
> > In any case, I have written a patch here:
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712192
> >
> > I guess you can tell if that's good for you
>
>
> Sorry Jehan, no. you change too much and I must say,
> with devastating effect.
>
> first of all I did my job and updated the spec:
>
> <http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification>
>
> checked 98 occurrences of “export” (twice) and updated
> to the new situation.
>
> in a nutshell, all it is is a string change.
>
> Export... -> Export As...
>
> (no other changes to this menu item or the code behind it.
>
> “Export to” -> Export (when no export target)
>
> (this is the menu item where “Export to foo.xyz” and
> “Overwrite foo.xyz” are swapped in as appropriate)
>
> do not touch the Save menu items, they work fine, as-is,
> since 1984. Save is for the main window content and the
> name of that is in the title bar of that main window.
>
> and that is it.

Ok. I'll simplify the patch.

Should I change the action's names to follow their label? In
particular "Export" would correspond to "file-export" and "Export
As..." corresponds to "file-export-as" (otherwise we would end up in
the strange situation where "Export" <=> "file-export-to" and "Export
As..." <=> "file-export").
Or you care only about UI, not action names, and I should ask Mitch for this?
Thanks.

Jehan

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