Re: [Gimp-developer] Quick-edit workflow

[Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com>]

Hi,

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:25 PM, peter sikking <peter mmiworks net> wrote:
> > guys + girls,
> >
> > it is a tricky thing, this overwrite vs. export.
> >
> > there is a difference, overwrite is for working ‘backward’
> > as I called it: doing some work on a non-gimp file and
> > feeding this directly back to it. it is labelled brutally and
> > frankly, with intent. export is for working ‘forward’, towards
> > a new result.
> >
> > but as Richard comments, the difference is not that big.
> > this is what I exploited in the design for repurposing
> > the Export-to item for Overwrite.
> >
> > of course one can use Export... to set up to write over
> > one of the source files of the composition one is working on.
> >
> > thus exporting is the general game, with one special case
> > built in: hardwiring the initiating source file as export
> > target and giving this a fearsome name (beware: burning bridges)
> >
> > Yes, Export-to and Export... mirror images of Save and Save-as...
> >
> > I think I can see what Akkana means: when there is no export
> > target, the menu items are “Export to” and “Export...”
> > that is not ideal. and it’s clear that it irritates people.
> >
> > note that the export-to item cannot be grayed out in this case.
> > ctrl-E just has to work (leading to an Export..., yes, just
> > as the first Save is a Save As...)
>
> Just checking master, currently when "overwrite" is shown, export-to
> is not grayed out but it is invisible.
> That means that it is active and can be run if you know the shortcut,
> but you can't export from the menu (for people who don't know
> shortcuts, new or casual users, etc.).
> Is it intended? I feel like this is a mistake and that "Export To"
> should always show up in the menu.
> I could easily fix this.
>
> > reviewing the situation, I see that the straightforward solution
> > is to relabel
> >
> > Export... -> Export As... (in all states)
> >
> > “Export to” -> Export (when no export target)
>
> I like the change. When there is an export target, should it become
> "Export As somefile.png"?

In any case, I have written a patch here:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712192

I guess you can tell if that's good for you, so that it can be committed. :-)

Jehan

> Jehan
>
> > you can see that this achieves perfect mirroring of
> > Save and Save As...
> >
> > “Export to foo.xyz” and “Overwrite foo.xyz” stay as-is,
> > they work well with Export As...
> >
> > (just in case you wonder, yes I am giving up on something
> > by doing this: in so many other application the label on
> > the export menu item is Export... )
> >
> >     --ps
> >
> >         founder + principal interaction architect
> >             man + machine interface works
> >
> >         http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture
> >
> >
> >
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