Re: [Gimp-developer] Quick-edit workflow


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:25 PM, peter sikking <peter mmiworks net> wrote:
guys + girls,

it is a tricky thing, this overwrite vs. export.

there is a difference, overwrite is for working ‘backward’
as I called it: doing some work on a non-gimp file and
feeding this directly back to it. it is labelled brutally and
frankly, with intent. export is for working ‘forward’, towards
a new result.

but as Richard comments, the difference is not that big.
this is what I exploited in the design for repurposing
the Export-to item for Overwrite.

of course one can use Export... to set up to write over
one of the source files of the composition one is working on.

thus exporting is the general game, with one special case
built in: hardwiring the initiating source file as export
target and giving this a fearsome name (beware: burning bridges)

Yes, Export-to and Export... mirror images of Save and Save-as...

I think I can see what Akkana means: when there is no export
target, the menu items are “Export to” and “Export...”
that is not ideal. and it’s clear that it irritates people.

note that the export-to item cannot be grayed out in this case.
ctrl-E just has to work (leading to an Export..., yes, just
as the first Save is a Save As...)

Just checking master, currently when "overwrite" is shown, export-to
is not grayed out but it is invisible.
That means that it is active and can be run if you know the shortcut,
but you can't export from the menu (for people who don't know
shortcuts, new or casual users, etc.).
Is it intended? I feel like this is a mistake and that "Export To"
should always show up in the menu.
I could easily fix this.

reviewing the situation, I see that the straightforward solution
is to relabel

Export... -> Export As... (in all states)

“Export to” -> Export (when no export target)

I like the change. When there is an export target, should it become
"Export As somefile.png"?

In any case, I have written a patch here:

I guess you can tell if that's good for you, so that it can be committed. :-)



you can see that this achieves perfect mirroring of
Save and Save As...

“Export to” and “Overwrite” stay as-is,
they work well with Export As...

(just in case you wonder, yes I am giving up on something
by doing this: in so many other application the label on
the export menu item is Export... )


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