Re: Aisleriot/Blackjack cards
- From: "Thomas H.P. Andersen" <phomes gmail com>
- To: "Christian Persch" <chpe gnome org>
- Cc: games-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Aisleriot/Blackjack cards
- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:35:20 +0100
Unfortunately my ubuntu install on the 400MHz machine failed and I
don't have the time/energy to try to fix it (exam tomorrow) so I have
no results from that test. However I received an email directly from a
user that I will attacht here (he's okay with that).
If we want to keep bonded I think we should try to convince an artist
to look at improving the faces. They don't look too good IMO and they
are the main reason I prefer anglo over bonded. (Ultimately I would
still prefer something along the lines of seans work to replace the
current cards at some point in the future)
<Jerry's mail>
As a "low spec" user, let me add that "high spec" PC users will very
often have some flavor of MS Windoze on their relatively new PCs.
The rest of us, who either can't or don't want to pay over $100 for
an operating system for our PC that may have only cost $50, find
Ubuntu to be a very attractive alternative, that makes these older
PCs into very useful, low-cost tools (& toys ;-) ). Many of us are also
somewhat older, which means we've been using these cards all of
our lives, and are quite used to their design. Please give us a choice.
I started out using Ubuntu 6.04 on a P2/233. You'd better believe
I would have noticed a 250 percent slowdown in rendering cards!
I come from the Mac environment: "The computer for the rest of us".
Well, Ubuntu is the OS for the rest of us - those not in bed with MS.
I sympathize with those who want prettier cards, but please add
them as a choice. Don't fix what isn't broken. Remember those who
can't afford 1.3 GHz or even half of that. We play cards, too. ;-)
Jerry, 64
</jJerry's mail>
On Jan 12, 2008 8:23 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen <phomes gmail com> wrote:
> I knew that Bonded was optimized for speed but 2.5 times sure sounds
> like a lot. I tested it on my old computer (1300MHz celeron, 384 ram,
> sis graphics) but I could not feel any difference between Bonded and
> Anglo there. I'm in the middle of installing gutsy on my even-older pc
> (400 MHz), I'm sure I'll feel the difference there...
>
> IMO we shouldn't hold back development for the low spec users forever.
> At some point we have to accept increased cost to make things
> better/prettier. As ultra low spec users become a minority (I assume)
> I'd say it's fair to default to the more costly and let the low spec
> users install Bonded if needed.
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2008 6:48 PM, Christian Persch <chpe gnome org> wrote:
> > Hi;
> >
> > Le samedi 12 janvier 2008 à 17:17 +0100, Andreas Rosdal a écrit :
> > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2008, Thomas H.P. Andersen wrote:
> > > Yes, that is the only difference, and is also the reason it was created.
> > > The default 'bonded' cards have quite low-quality king, queen and jack,
> > > while Anglo is better in this area.
> > >
> > > > Personally I think we should just go with gnomanglo but a poll surely
> > > > wont't hurt :)
> > >
> > > I agree with this. If everyone agrees, then there's no need for a poll.
> >
> > The reason we currently default to Bonded is that it renders the
> > fastest. I just took some timings (compile libgames-support/ with CFLAGS
> > +="-DINSTRUMENT_LOADING" for that; use Freecell since it renders all the
> > cards at startup), and it results that Gnomanglo takes about 2.5 times
> > as long to render all cards as Bonded; that's too long IMHO.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Christian
> >
> >
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