Re: foundation application..

[Germán Poo-Caamaño <gpoo gnome org>]

On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 09:46 +0000, Magdalen Berns wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Germán Poo-Caamaño <gpoo gnome org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 20:54 -0800, Christian Hergert wrote:
> > > On 02/12/2015 07:33 PM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
> > > > I think you bring up an interesting point, but I also like the idea
> > > > that foundation membership is not a badge you earn if you contribute
> > > > "enough", but hints to a deeper involvement with the community inner
> > > > workings.
> > > > I argue that a 3-months contribution from someone fresh to the project
> > > > might or might not be enough to grant membership regardless of how
> > > > they have been involved with the project, and I'm curious whether the
> > > > case you are bringing up is theoretical or if there have been cases of
> > > > interns interested in foundation membership dismissed solely on the
> > > > supposed "intern clause". Of course I do support any initiative that
> > > > aims to make the foundation a more welcoming place!
> > >
> > > I think the point here is that if our current bylaws claim one thing, we
> > > should adhere to that for the time being. If we don't agree with the
> > > bylaws, then they should be altered, which is a different process.
> >
> > The foundation bylaws predates any outreach program (including bounties,
> > that predates outreach programs) by many years.  Therefore, hardly can
> > address this special case.
>
> > Back then there was no program where we were proactively seeking
> > contributors by offering them money. Back then, if anybody applied after
> > contributing for a period of time, then it was kind-of-clear(TM) they
> > were to continue in the project.
>
> I am talking about both GSoC and Outreach Program interns and this is
> factually incorrect either way: GSoC has been going for 10 years and
> Outreach Program seems to have been going since 2010. The bylaws were last
> updated in 2012. Moreover though, it's worth pointing out again that
> sponsored contributors are not a new thing for GNOME the question of the
> value of their contributions is covered in the bylaws which state,
> "Contributions
> made in the course of employment will be considered and will be ascribed to
> the individuals involved, rather than accruing to all employees of a
> “contributing” corporation".

As you say, the bylaws were updated, not rewritten.  The updates, though
important were minor.

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Germán Poo-Caamaño
http://calcifer.org/