Re: Proposal: DNS change irc.gnome.org becomes A record and irc.gimpnet.org starts getting phased out.

[Philip Van Hoof <pvanhoof gnome org>]

On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 08:55 -0500, meg ford wrote:

Hi Meg,




> In general when people use the term "PC" in the US, they are talking
> about being adopting extra careful/ newly coined language. That's not
> what I'm saying. You wouldn't use the term gimp when talking to
> someone unless you wanted to indicate that you hate them or had were
> trying to start a fight. There isn't anything pc about not using such
> a  term. You would only use it if you were specifically trying to
> offend someone. Just to clarify, are you saying that it's pc to say we
> shouldn't use derogatory epithets, or are you disagreeing with my
> assessment of the word?

Note that I didn't say irc.gnome.org is a bad idea. Removing Gimpnet is
a bad idea (I don't think that real gimps join Gimpnet to be a jerk on
the IRC server, if that's truly the case then a solution for that would
be to either ban those people or to lock their discussions in a IRC
channel on that server).
> I'm saying that it's an I18n issue. I recently read that the GNOME
> foot is insulting in Thailand so we are trying not to use it there. We
> aren't getting rid of it entirely because it's specifically offensive
> there, but not everywhere. I would guess that gimp isn't offensive in
> languages other than English since we are only hearing about this from
> English speakers. In the case of the GIMP I can see why they a name
> change would be really problematic and potentially harm the project.
> In the case of GNOME irc I think don't see that there is an issue
> wrt making the change. However, maybe that's because I speak English.
> But since English is the official language of the project, so maybe
> it's important to consider making a change. What do you think?

I think GNOME should introduce irc.gnome.org and alter the IRC server's
MOTD but shouldn't remove the irc.gimpnet.org domain. I'm not certain
that this should be done because of derogative terms like the word gimp,
but rather because GNOME is GNOME, not GIMP, and it's misleading to have
to connect to irc.gimpnet.org to talk to GNOME developers.

Kind regards,

Philip

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>         
>         >         > The proposal is to make irc.gnome.org be an DNS A
>         record and
>         >         we will
>         >         > continue to honor irc.gimpnet.org as a CNAME for
>         one year in
>         >         which
>         >         > case we will then remove it altogether.
>         >
>         >
>         >         Gimpnet is cultural inheritance of GNOME, I think
>         it's a bad
>         >         idea to do
>         >         this for that reason.
>         >
>         >         Kind regards,
>         >
>         >         Philip
>         >
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