Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

[Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>]

On 11/25/2009 01:50 PM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:

> Alternative proposal: lets deal with the problem at hand and get our
> story straight about what is planet.gnome.org, what can be posted
> there (i.e. no porn and vulgar language etc.) and how we can help
> to enforce a reasonably exact policy on an exact resource which
> is planet.gnome.org.

Well, that misses the main issue.  Spam and p0rn are easy, and need no writing 
down.  Where it gets though is criticism, expression of frustration, those 
kind of stuff.  Those have most impact on the community and have caused people 
leave the project for.

To make the discussion more practical, lets take one real incident of the 
past:  Murray's blog re Jeff.  It did not include vulgar language.  It did 
include exaggerations that turned into libel.  Now how does any proposed 
solution deal with that?

If you propose CoC should be enforceable (which I personally strictly oppose: 
when there *is* a law, someone will eventually abuse it.) how do you define 
what "be nice" means?  Does it mean I shouldn't offend anyone?  Or is it that 
the majority should not find my action was offensive?  Or foundation members 
not find it offensive?  Or general public?  etc etc etc.

I like specific answer to "how would your proposed solution would address this 
past incident, if it happened again?" from anyone proposing a solution.

And for those who just keep saying again and again that "there should be an 
enforcement" without ever offering how to get there, well, thanks, we heard 
you many times :).

behdad


> Cheers,
>            -Tristan