Re: [GF] initial slate - european part



I agree with Juantomas.  Also, I'd be most happy to provide whatever
assistance the group of folks in Europe would like to help with the
creation of the EGF.  I know it's a lot of work.  Perhaps our experience
setting up the GF can be of help to you.  Let me know,

Bart

Juantomás García wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Martin Baulig wrote:
>
> > > Ideally we should pick someone who'll later be on the
> > > board of the European GF as well so we'll have a real
> > > representative of GNOME Europe on the main board.
> > >
> > > I think, the most important thing is that we have
> > > "European issues" represented in the main GF - for
> > > instance things like to which shows etc. we go, which
> > > kind of marketing we want to do, how much money we want
> > > to spend for marketing and such.
>
> Well, I think we need to think about the european member
> of GF in a kind of provissional member that represent
> the people that are working now in the start of the EGF.
>
> > If we do this, we'll also have some more time to think
> > about the european issues and to select someone for the
> > board.
> >
>
> That's the question, try to not spend the time, we need to
> start EGF. This is not a life membership.
>
> >
> > However, if we do the elections before LWE we have really
> > limited time, so better let's go on.
> >
>
> Then the question is we must be the elections before LWE or
> just make a provisional board until official elections.
>
> >
> > To summarize, for the moment, the primary goal is to get
> > the foundation up and running.
> >
> > I think we can only get a larger acceptance of the GF if
> > people feel like they're actually represented in it.
> >
>
> and the most important if the GF  is able  to make 'real' things from
> the first day. Now we just did little steps ahead.
>
> >
> > So we need to give european people the feeling that this
> > is not just a US institution but a thing for the whole
> > GNOME community.
> >
> > In addition to this, the initial board of directors will
> > have a whole lot of work during the first months and they
> > may face rejection and bad faith especially from european
> > people.
> >
>
> Come on when I think about the EGF and we do anything
> in Europe, I cann't understand what kind of bad feelling
> can we have if we are doing things. It will be EGF effort
> with or without GF support.
>
> >
> > This makes it even more important for the initial board to
> > give people the feeling that this is a thing for the whole
> > GNOME community.
> >
>
> EGF are in the same boat, it is the same project, just
> localized/specialiced in Europe.
>
> >
> > A lot of people I talked to here in germany and europe said
> > that they dislike the way decisions are being made in the
> > project at the moment because the steering committee was
> > never elected and is also a pure american institution.
> >
>
> ????
>
> >
> > This is one of the big tasks for the foundation.
>
> Best Regards
> Juantomás
>
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