Re: [Evolution] trying to set up smart card crashes evolution



Thanks for the lines, I manged to get it running after long time:
here is what I did:

removed my current ~/.pki/nssdb/pkcs11.txt
modutil -dbdir sql:.pki/nssdb -add "SafeSign IC PKCS#11 Module" -libfile /usr/lib/libaetpkss.so
logout, plugged in the card, logged in an started evolution.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Read-only CalDav accounts in Debian Jessie (3.12.9)
      (Milan Crha)
   2. Re:  trying to set up smart card crashes evolution (Milan Crha)
   3. Re:  new to evo (dean)
   4. Re:  moving folders (Andre Klapper)
   5. Re:  failed to connect to google error (Andre Klapper)
   6. Re:  new to evo (Rudolf K?nzli)
   7. Re:  Mails lost with Evolution 3.10.4 on Mint Cinnamon
      (Stephen Howe)
   8. Re:  Mails lost with Evolution 3.10.4 on Mint Cinnamon
      (Pete Biggs)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:57:19 +0200
From: Milan Crha <mcrha redhat com>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Read-only CalDav accounts in Debian Jessie
      (3.12.9)
Message-ID: <1435643839 2191 4 camel redhat com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-9"

On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 10:16 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Or in my experience - as a WebDAV server developer - it may not
bother to check any flags at all; and thus provide the sense of being 
a superior implementation.... until you try to use it with a
read-only calendar. :(

      Hi,
that's true, the flag checking can be completely skipped and the
calendar can (pretend) to be always writable, only an error will be
shown when the PUT will be requested for otherwise read-only
CalDAV/WebDAV sources.

I do not have any problem with this approach, it gives a bit more
freedom too, with respect of different privileges on different
collections, it only seemed a bit convenient to know beforehand that
the calendar cannot be used for writing.
      Bye,
      Milan



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 08:24:18 +0200
From: Milan Crha <mcrha redhat com>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] trying to set up smart card crashes evolution
Message-ID: <1435645458 2191 8 camel redhat com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-9"

On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 21:55 +0200, ultraviolett2 arcor de wrote:
I cannot reproduce the crash with latest version (3.16.2.1-1). When I 
open the signing/encrypting certificate nothing is offered, where 
Thunderbird still works. What can I do to find out the reason?

      Hi,
one of my coworkers found some steps to make the smart-card reader
work. Even though it is for an ancient system and evolution, it may be
still relevant in some parts. I cannot test it, I do not have a smart
card, but it worked for him.

Citation follows:

1) evolution now uses standard combo of system sql:/etc/pki/nssdb and
user sql:$HOME/.pki/nssdb databases
2) evolution runs as regular user but nss tools (modutil, nss-gui)
remove read access from /etc/pki/nssdb/pkcs11.txt. The net result is
that evolution is unaware of the module unless the permissions are back
to 0644 or the module is added to user's database as well
3) evolution only reads certificates upon it's start so you have to
restart evo after you plug the card in

So the steps for coolkey-based cards are:
1) (as root) add coolkey module to your nssdb:
# modutil -dbdir sql:/etc/pki/nssdb -add "CoolKey PKCS#11 Module" 
-libfile /usr/lib64/pkcs11/libcoolkeypk11.so
2) (as root) fix the file permissions again:
# chmod 0644 /etc/pki/nssdb/pkcs11.txt
3) plug in the reader & card if you haven't done so yet
4) restart evolution
5) go to Preferences - Certificates and you should see the certificates
that reside on the smartcard

      Bye,
      Milan



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:44:14 +1000
From: dean <deanshannon3 gmail com>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] new to evo
Message-ID: <1435650254 22769 6 camel gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 16:56 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 12:43 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 07:22 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
I update my system every morning as a matter of course,

Which is probably far more aggressive than necessary for most users.

what I'm talking about. Fedora brings out a new release every 6 
months

6 months is a pretty aggressive time-line.

and only supports the current release and the previous one. 
Releases
over a year old will not get even critical security updates, so
upgrading the release is something the sysadmin has to take 
specific
steps to do.

Of course.  So there are (a) rolling releases or (b) distributions 
that
support in place updates [most these days, I would think?].  For
openSUSE (a) is Tumbleweed and (b) is "zypper dup" [Distribution
UPdate].

Anyway, either Fedora or openSUSE on a desktop should provide a
reasonably current installation of GNOME and/or Evolution.

Just a fyi Debian is also a good choice. Stable is released every 2-3
years and testing is a rolling release which includes Evolution 3.16.3


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:47:33 +0200
From: Andre Klapper <ak-47 gmx net>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] moving folders
Message-ID: <1435650453 30727 25 camel gmx net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 06:47 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote:
Hi, how did you manage to get to 3.2.3 even on ubuntu 12? - I only
could
gt as far as 3.10 4 - on ubuntu 14.04.

3.2 was released in 2011/2012.
3.10 was released in 2013/2014.

10 > 2.

andre
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:50:46 +0200
From: Andre Klapper <ak-47 gmx net>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] failed to connect to google error
Message-ID: <1435650646 30727 27 camel gmx net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 16:26 -0500, Howdy Doody wrote:
Failed to connect to 'Google'
The requested resource was not found: 
https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/AuthForInstalledApps

And have the option to reconnect.

That sometimes makes the error go away for a bit, sometimes not.

What can I do?

Wait for the fix for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750148

andre
-- 
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http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:14:17 +0200
From: Rudolf K?nzli <rudolf kunzli gmail com>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] new to evo
Message-ID: <1435652057 10146 8 camel gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 17:44 +1000, dean wrote:
On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 16:56 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 12:43 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 07:22 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
I update my system every morning as a matter of course,

Which is probably far more aggressive than necessary for most 
users.

what I'm talking about. Fedora brings out a new release every 6 
months

6 months is a pretty aggressive time-line.

and only supports the current release and the previous one. 
Releases
over a year old will not get even critical security updates, so
upgrading the release is something the sysadmin has to take 
specific
steps to do.

Of course.  So there are (a) rolling releases or (b) distributions 
that
support in place updates [most these days, I would think?].  For
openSUSE (a) is Tumbleweed and (b) is "zypper dup" [Distribution
UPdate].

Anyway, either Fedora or openSUSE on a desktop should provide a
reasonably current installation of GNOME and/or Evolution.

Just a fyi Debian is also a good choice. Stable is released every 2-3
years and testing is a rolling release which includes Evolution 
3.16.3

I update my systems every day. It takes about 5 minutes for each one
which is not a "high price" when I consider that all of them are
running the most recent version.

The upgrade from Fedora 21 to Fedora 22 did run about 2 hours over the
network. It's worth to invest this time !

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:03:19 +0200
From: Stephen Howe <info fabsurplus com>
To: Patrick O'Callaghan <poc usb ve>
Cc: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mails lost with Evolution 3.10.4 on Mint
      Cinnamon
Message-ID: <1435590199 2946 26 camel stephen-Q500A>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Dear Patrick,

My main frustration with Evolution is that there is no "command line" to
work from.
It's all from the GUI, which is fine ...when everything works....i.e. in
practice...never....
If I wanted everything to "work" from the GUI...I'd use windows
millenium or something 

In this case, if you can give me some instructions on how I can diagnose
what is going wrong when I loose mail, then I'd be happy to run some
tests.

All the software I run on the client side is "Standard" for Mint
Cinnamom.
All the server software is set up using "ISPCONFIG" from the
"HowToForge" website:
www.howtoforge.com

If I knew more about how the mail is being downloaded and if I could see
what is happening during the download process when it is interrupted,
then I'm sure i could find out what is going wrong.

On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 11:56 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 11:43 +0200, Stephen Howe wrote:
1.What can I do to recover these messages ?
2. Is there a work-round for this problem ?

I'm surprised Evo is losing email. That should never happen. However if
you are using POP (you don't say anything about your setup) you might
consider switching to IMAP and keeping your mail on the server.

poc
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:42:39 +0100
From: Pete Biggs <pete biggs org uk>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mails lost with Evolution 3.10.4 on Mint
      Cinnamon
Message-ID: <1435664559 2512 27 camel biggs org uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"


My main frustration with Evolution is that there is no "command line" to
work from.It's all from the GUI, which is fine ...when everything
works

Evolution is a GUI mail client.  It's part of Gnome, which is a GUI
desktop environment.  But it still has a "command line".

....i.e. in
practice...never....

That's not the experience of most people.  If it didn't work, people
wouldn't use it - but it's frustrating that people think it doesn't
work when they use old unmaintained versions.



In this case, if you can give me some instructions on how I can diagnose
what is going wrong when I loose mail, then I'd be happy to run some
tests.

Help -> Contents has a section on debugging things.

You could also look at
 
     https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging

All these things require Evolution to be started from the command line!
Virtually all the help that is given here and on the web starts with
"run evolution from the command line to see if there are any problems".
If that doesn't show up any issues, turn on some of the debugging.  You
still haven't said anything about your setup - like if you are using
POP or IMAP - but I presume you are using POP, in that case you need to
run Evolution as 

    CAMEL_DEBUG=pop3 evolution >& logfile

from that you will be able to see if anything fails.
  

All the software I run on the client side is "Standard" for Mint
Cinnamom.

That means nothing to most people.

All the server software is set up using "ISPCONFIG" from the
"HowToForge" website:
www.howtoforge.com

What server software?  Are you running your own mail server?


If I knew more about how the mail is being downloaded and if I could see
what is happening during the download process when it is interrupted,
then I'm sure i could find out what is going wrong.

Run Evolution in debug mode.  You'll get considerably more information
about what's going on than you could possibly need.

Can I also say that finding out how to do this is not difficult. Google
for "debug evolution" comes up with the above website as the first hit.

P.



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