Re: [Evolution] Three tough problems in Eudora to Evolution transition - #1 solved

[Vern McGeorge <evolution VernMcGeorge com>]

Patrick, et.al.

This problem is solved as outlined below.

On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 10:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 01:03 -0800, Vern McGeorge wrote:
> > Patrick,
> > 
> > A good question. I don't know. I haven't actually looked at the
> > complete message header yet - still haven't figured out how to do this
> > in Evolution.
>
> View->Message Source or Ctrl-U.
>
> > I was just speculating on possible reasons why two rules that are
> > apparently the same don't work the same.
>
> If they don't work the same then they aren't the same. You can't assume
> that different mailers attach exactly the same semantics to similar
> expressions. For one thing, order of evaluation might change the result
> (not saying that's the case here of course).

Hmmm. I would hope that the semantics of "If the recipient is (or contains) X than move the message to folder Y and stop processing" would be pretty unambiguous and the fact that these problem messages got left in my in box tells me that this isn't a case of some other filter getting at the message first.

In any event, this problem is solved. What follows is a sanitized snippet of the full message header

...
Received: from unknown (HELO m1pismtp01-010.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) ([10.8.12.10]) (envelope-sender <thesender yahoo com>) by p3plsmtp06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for <myaddress vernmcgeorge com>; 21 Jan 2010 01:53:45 -0000
...
From: The Sender <thesender yahoo com>
Subject: A Different Look At COLONOSCOPY (you will laugh until you cry!!!)
To: The Sender <thesender yahoo com>
...
X-evolution-source: pop://myaddress%40VernMcGeorge com pop secureserver net/

Please note that my email address does not appear in the To header but it does appear in the first and last lines listed above. Why? I don't know. But this seems to be the case in my other problem messages as well.

Therefore, I can work around the problem by constructing a rule that looks for the condition ...

     specific header      X-evolution-source      contains      myaddress

... to be true and files the message accordingly.

Now if I can just find a fix for problem #2 (threads hanging while "Fetching Mail") I will be a very happy camper. What's killing me here is that every time a thread hangs, it forgets the password pops up a dialog asking me to re-enter it. 
> poc
>
> PS Please don't top-post on this list. It annoys a lot of people and
> benefits nobody.

Sorry for top-posting. While I actually prefer to read top posted material for the reasons outlined in the next paragraph, I will defer to the preferred style of the list.

I prefer to read top-posted email because I can flip through a mailbox full of messages using the down-arrow key and can see the new material immediately at the top of the message window. I don't have to change the focus from the list of messages to the message body, scroll to the new content, focus back on the list of messages, and then select the next one. Thus, I can spend about 1/2 second on the 200 or so messages I will ignore anyway. Granted, it makes working on the 20 or so messages I do care about more painful.

Of course, this works better if the author does a better job than I did of restating the issue at the start of his or her reply. "A good question." is not sufficient - pretty lame, in fact. I could have done better.

Hopefully, we'll all so be on Google Wave or the equivalent soon and all this will be moot.

-- Vern