Re: [Evolution] message filters not working

[Chris G <cl isbd net>]

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:41:30AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:55 +0000, Chris G wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:13:27AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:22 +0000, Chris G wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:15:20AM +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > > > > > You mean like you tell the Evo filter to look for a ListId header?
> > > > > > What you tell mutt is that a certain address (in To:, From:, Cc: etc.)
> > > > > > is a mailing list address, the specification is a regular expression
> > > > > > with which you can specify as much as is needed to remove ambiguity.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you are criticising Evo for using information in the message to
> > > > > automagically find out something that you have to manually tell Mutt
> > > > > about?
> > > > When we came in it appeared that one couldn't tell Evolution manually
> > > > about mailing lists.  All I was saying was that it's easy to tell mutt
> > > > about mailing lists, if one can't do the same (i.e. tell the MUA
> > > > manually) with Evolution it seems to be a bit of an omission.
> > >
> > > Evo allows you to filter on mailing-list headers where they exist. It
> > > also enables a bunch of list-specific actions such as Message->Reply To
> > > List (Ctrl-L) plus those under under Message->Mailing Lists (subscribe,
> > > get archives, contact the owner, post etc.), all of which only make
> > > sense in the presence of mailing-list headers. What else do you want it
> > > to do?
> > Surely it would make sense to allow filtering on an address one
> > specifies oneself - for those (many) mailing lists which which don't
> > have 'proper' mailing list headers.  In mutt I simply tell it which
> > mailing lists I'm subscribed to (as a list of regular expressions
> > matching the mailing list From:/Cc:/To: address) and then I get all
> > the special mailing list commands (like Evolution's Ctrl-L) enabled
> > for all those mailing lists whether or not they have 'proper' headers.
>
> If I understand you correctly, the idea is basically to tell Mutt what
> the List-Post header is if it's not present in the messages. I guess
> that could be somewhat useful, though it doesn't really help with the
> other list-specific operations, e.g. I don't see how Mutt can deduce the
> Subscribe/Unsubscribe address (or the Help address or the Archives URL)
> automatically, or do you specify those as well?
No, mutt doesn't attempt to add Subscribe/Unsubscribe commands etc. 
Adding an address as a mailing-list means you can use the Reply to
List command, messages are marked as being list messages (can be used
as a search filter for example), messages sent to the list have a
Mail-Followup-To: header added to them.  I think there may be a few
more things it does but these are the basics.

-- 
Chris Green