Re: [Evolution] PreviewPane accelerator

["Francisco Javier F. Serrador" <serrador tecknolabs com>]

I completely agree with you about localizing keybindings. So, then the
better solution is to change current keybinding to some combination more
usable, perhaps Control+Space could be a better keybinding.

What do you think?

El mar, 18-01-2005 a las 08:33 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan escribió:
> AFAIK the only reason for abandoning single-letter accelerators was to
> enable keyboard selection of folders. I too have suffered from this (and
> complained about it several times), but I'm against localizing
> keybindings as a solution. I can remember when MS apps used Ctrl-G on
> Spanish versions (meaning "Guardar" == "Save") and absolutely hating it.
> Luckily they decided years ago to standardize across all languages and
> now everyone just knows that Ctrl-S is Save, no matter what language
> they use. YMMV of course.
>
> I absolutely *never* use kb selection of folders. To me changing folders
> counts as a relatively important operation and I see no problem in doing
> it with the mouse (it would be a lot easier if one could configure the
> folder order in the left pane), so my personal preference would be to
> restore the old behaviour, but in the meantime I mapped Preview Pane to
> Ctrl-Alt-P (note that Ctrl-P is Print).
>
> poc
>
> On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 22:24 +0100, Francisco Javier F. Serrador wrote:
> > It is a feature that Spanish (German, French and the like) cannot use
> > easily with current keystrokes. Some people just argue "In Outlook I can
> > disable Preview panel with a key, why Evolution cannot?
> >
> > The ancient evolution 1.2 used "Q" key by default, and that worked
> > perfectly. I think that using a non alphanumerical key for quick access
> > is a receipt for having troubles in other keyboard layouts. 
> >
> > I think there are some workarounds we can use: 
> > 1.-  Changing the keybinding and use a more suitable key for
> > localization. (Q, Ctrl-P, etc)
> > 2.-  Keybinding internationalization, and let the localization groups
> > assign the more suitable keys. (Here, I'm thinking about languages as
> > Japanese, Chinese, and others which do not use our alphabet and in this
> > way they could provide more suitable and easy to remember keybinding.
> >
> > Finally, If the las option is used, I think the HIG should give some
> > guidelines about keybinding election.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >   
> >
> > El lun, 10-01-2005 a las 00:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan escribió:
> > > Not Zed wrote:
> > > > Why not just use the menu?  I never ever activate the option unless i'm 
> > > > testing it, it isn't needed for normal usage.
> > >
> > > It's essential to be able to turn off the preview pane if you want to 
> > > select a message without fetching it from a remote server (because it's 
> > > big, or you don't want to mark it as read, or whatever). Maybe that's 
> > > not "normal usage" for some, but it is for others, and having to pull 
> > > down a menu and hunt for the option is a pain in the posterior.
> > >
> > > poc
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 00:25 +0100, Francisco Javier F. Serrador wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There is a problem with the current accelerator on non-English
> > > > > keyboards. Actually we are making a county-wide deployment of evolution
> > > > > in a Spanish location environment, and the Preview panel is unuseable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to map that accelerator to an other less conflictive key
> > > > > upstream?
> > > > > I know how to fix that issue, but we are asking you to resolve it
> > > > > globally.
> > > > >
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