RE: [Evolution] Evolution 2.0 UI proposal
- From: "Marlin Borsick" <borsicml coastalan net>
- To: "Ettore Perazzoli" <ettore ximian com>, "Evolution Hackers Mailing List" <evolution-hackers ximian com>, "Evolution Mailing List" <evolution ximian com>
- Subject: RE: [Evolution] Evolution 2.0 UI proposal
- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:06:37 -0400
I guess I am in that minority that uses the tree view and the shortcut
bar extensively. I find using Evo for reading mail lists is an
outstanding tool. As I have mail being automatically sorted via Exchange
server-side rules to different folders, some folders have a shortcut and
others I reach via the tree folder view (if the mail volume gets large
enough <G>).
With regards to the summary view, I do find it somewhat useful. I like
the idea of weather access in that I am looking at five or six different
locations for weather. The summary view handles this nicely. I also like
the RSS feeds included here as I get a quick overview of news that I am
interested in. However, when looking at what is going on locally
(Exchange server) frankly all I am interested in is calendar events for
today and perhaps the next, and the tasks that need to get done. Lists
of how much mail is in the Inbox and other folders isn't important to me
(I get over 500 per day), so that is pretty much wasted space.
You might consider a redesign of the summary view with a focus on what's
important today and tomorrow and work things like news feeds, etc. into
the view.
However, the real issue right now that I'd like to see back and I'm
probably the person responsible for it getting dropped, is that I can
open an email in a new window, delete it in the trash can when it's
read, and the next email will come up in the same window. Frustrating as
all get out when the windows closes and you have to open it again to
read the next email, and as a closet Evo user <G>, I am a bit paranoid
about viewing email through the open view pane in the Evo mail client.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ettore Perazzoli [mailto:ettore ximian com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 6:44 PM
To: Evolution Hackers Mailing List; Evolution Mailing List
Subject: [Evolution] Evolution 2.0 UI proposal
Hello!
Here at Ximian we have been brainstorming a bit about what happens next
in the Evolution world. One of the ideas that has come up is a
substantial overhaul of Evolution's UI.
Since images speak better than words, here are the mockups for some
designs that Anna has developed: (this is just to give a very rough idea
of what it would be like; the icons and labels are not final, the
widgets are not the real ones etc.)
http://primates.ximian.com/~anna/evo2/evo2_contacts.png
http://primates.ximian.com/~anna/evo2/evo2_calendar.png
http://primates.ximian.com/~anna/evo2/evo2_mail.png
http://primates.ximian.com/~anna/evo2/evo2_tasks.png
http://primates.ximian.com/~anna/evo2/evo2_navbar_shrunk.png
The most important changes are:
* You no longer see all the types of folders at once. You
switch between calendar, mail, tasks and contacts by
clicking on the buttons at the bottom.
* The calendar allows you to see multiple calendar at once.
Also you can subscribe to web calendars and see them in the
pane on the left as well.
There are a few reasons for us to go with this design:
* It kills the all-in-one tree view, which currently makes it
difficult to reach for your calendar or contacts folders,
since they are hiding between all the various mail folders.
You no longer need to hunt for you calendar folder scrolling
through the tree to see what your schedule is like, you just
click on an easily accessible button marked "Calendar".
Much better navigation. (Please note that, although it's
not obvious from the mockup, we would still have a mail
folder tree, the same way we have it now. Calendar, Tasks
and Contacts, however, would be just flat lists.)
* Killing the tree view also simplifies the architecture a
lot. Right now there is a lot of machinery in place to
handle the tree, making sure that components don't step on
each other's toes. In particular, the handling of local
folders is a maintenance nightmare, and also makes it very
hard to provide the hooks that hackers need eg. to access
Evolution's folders and do cool desktop integration hacks.
* The shell's APIs would be drastically reduced to just
a couple calls and it would become a lot simpler to
implement new components.
* This design simplification would also allow components to be
launched independently from each other. We could
potentially even launch the shell without certain components
(e.g. launch only the mailer) if the user wants it that way.
If we wanted to have separated apps a la OS X we could
trivially do that too.
* As I mentioned, it allows side-by-side calendar viewing,
which increases the usability of the calendar manyfold.
On the other hand, if we go this way we are probably also going to drop
the following features:
* The summary. While the summary is neat, there is a general
feeling (at least amongst the developers) that the mail and
calendar summaries are not tremendously useful, and that
weather and RDF and weather information is better suited for
a specialized application. Also we are trying to reduce the
amount of code we have to maintain, and this seems like a
good candidate for trimming.
* The shortcut bar. It's been shown that only a relatively
small part of the Evolution user community actually uses it,
and we feel that it unnecessarily complicates the UI. The
new design is much simpler to navigate anyways, and the
shortcut bar would add clutter and complexity, both in code
and UI. Also, it wouldn't be easy to implement in this
model without keeping some of the shell's complexity that
we would like to get rid of.
Opinions?
-- Ettore
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