Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.2]

[Etienne Tourigny <et omeo ca>]

Hi to all.

Billy's comments made me think of a hybrid solution.

Right now the "active" languages (in the document) are the ones that
have been "enabled" in the Prefs.  Before you would select the "enabled"
in the prefs. and you could select "active" languages in Edit->SCL.
  
What if you could "enable" various languages (ex. for me American
English and French) and select a "default" for editing.  Then in the
document you could select ONE of the "enabled" languages as the "active"
and it would be initially the "default" one.  

To me it doesn't make much sense to select multiple "active" languages
for spell checking in a particular document.  This can cause errors and
would add new words to multiple languages.  What I did in the previous
version of evo was Select French as "active" and when I wanted to
compose a message in English I had to de-select French and then select
English.  Instead I could just select English and French would be
de-selected.  

So Anna's statement "2) The ability to choose which of the spell
checking languages *already enabled in the settings dialog* are used for
spell checking any particular mail."
would make sense to me if it read "The ability to choose ONE of the
spelling languages *already selected in the settings dialog* IS used for
[...]"

As for implementing this, one would have to:

1) add an option for the "default" language in the prefs.
2) the list in Edit->SCL would be made of the languages "enabled" in the
prefs.
3) only one element in the list in Edit->SCL would be active at a time 


Make any sense?  Thanks for reading so far...

Etienne


On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 16:14, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
> tir, 2003-02-11 kl. 19:08 skrev Anna Marie Dirks:
>
> > Thanks for your mail. I have a few questions and observations. 
>
> Hi Anna!
>
> Thanks for taking me seriously. It means a lot, namely.
>
> > > I write in a number of languages: Eng US, Eng GB, Norwegian (only
> > > bokmaal available, alas, but I teach mine nynorsk, "my" language, as
> > > appropriate :) and Dutch. Right now, I've chosen Eng US.
>
> > > If I set the languages I want in the settings dialog, words that I add
> > > are added to *all* the auxiliary language files at the same time. This
> > > is both useless and end-defeating.
>
> > So if we leave the Edit->SCL menu out of it for a moment, the problem
> > you are articulating here is that people who run spell checking in more
> > than one language need to have control over which dictionary new words
> > are added to. Is that correct? 
>
> Correct.
>
> > > If I choose the spell checker in the composer, I can add auxiliary
> > > languages for each message that I write. 
> >
> > I am not sure that I understand what you mean here. :) Please bear with
> > me.
>
> Yes, sorry. Auxiliary was not the right word. What I meant was, that if
> I choose all my languages in the settings dialog, then the spell checker
> will check in each language simultaneously and add to each auxiliary
> word list simultaneously, if I choose "add." Irrespective of the
> language in which I'm writing.
>
> Example: In English there is a word "hood" with a given pronunciation.
> In Dutch there is a word "hoed", that means something subtly different,
> with a Dutch pronunciation that approaches the English (not quite the
> same). Had I enabled all languages in the setup choice, I might write
> "hoed" in English and the word would be accepted and no error shown,
> although there is no such word in English.
>
> Another example: I might be writing in Norwegian and write a "pet"
> expression like "vetlepusen min" ("my little kitten"). The spelling
> checker most probably wouldn't know vetlepusen, I'd add and it would get
> added to US English, GB English and Dutch as well. Not exactly what I
> want.
>
> > When you open a new composer window, which spell checking languages do
> > you wish to have pre-enabled? None? American English, British English,
> > Dutch and Norwegian? (ie, those which you have enabled in the Settings
> > dialog)
>
> In fact I should have added that I write in Danish and Swedish as well
> and have the dictionaries installed, use them :-) I would just love
> Afrikaans (like Dutch, but different) and Icelandic (like Norwegian
> nynorsk dialects ;) as well - however, I can't find either Afrikaans or
> Icelandic aspell rpms. I have learned and write in them all.
>
> When I open a new composer window, I want *no* languages enabled. I want
> to be able to choose my own language at that moment, or not to check at
> all, just as I do now.
>
> > When you speak of adding "auxiliary" languages, do you mean selecting
> > among the aforementioned languages, or, selecting additional languages
> > (ones which have not been enabled in the Settings dialog, such as
> > German) to spell check in? 
>
> "Auxiliary" was a bad word here. I mean "selecting among the
> aforementioned languages."
>
> > What I am trying to probe here is your use of the list of languages in
> > Edit->SCL.
>
> It's what I use exclusively, just before I begin to write, to choose the
> language to check for just that mail.
>
> >  It sounds to me like what you want is: 
> >
> > 1) To limit the scope of any changes made to the list of languages in
> > Edit->SCL to the current email. 
>
> Correct.
>
> > 2) The ability to choose which of the spell checking languages *already
> > enabled in the settings dialog* are used for spell checking any
> > particular mail.
>
> Correct, but that isn't possible at the moment.
>
> > 3) The ability to choose which dictionary (of the dictionaries enabled
> > for the mail in question) a particular word is added to.
>
> Correct. This in particular seems obvious to me.
>
> > Am I understanding your needs correctly?
>
> Perfectly. Thanks again for bothering, Anna.
>
> Best,
>
> Tony