Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Request for additions/corrections in Evolution

[Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>]

On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 02:04, Ken Barber wrote:
> I subscribed to this list in hopes of finding answers to the two things
> Evolution still lacks before I can switch from KMail.  I've found my answers
> all right, but not the ones I was expecting.
>
> I've been increasingly uncomfortable with the attitude of certain Evolution
> developers on this forum concerning enhancements/bug fix requests from users.
> I don't know if I even dare mention the two missing features that I will need
> before I can switch.
>
> I'm not impressed with "get used to it" and "it's not life-threatening"
> responses to requests for things that KMail ALREADY DOES (including the 
> "different colors for different levels of quotes" thing, which is quickly 
> turning into a flame war).  Sure, I'd love to write the code myself but I 
> haven't written any code in ten years and I'm no longer young.  Even back 
> then I wasn't all that good at hacking code.
>
> I have a strong preference for the Gnome environment over KDE but for now I
> think I'm going to have to be content with KMail (fortunately it runs under
> Gnome) and wait for Evo to mature.  Hopefully its developers will mature as
> well.

I'm sorry, but I don't like being insulted by users. That is what
provoked me to tell that guy to get lost. If you read his posts on the
thread, you'll note that they contain nothing but insults directed
toward the developers. You'd also notice that most of his concerns have
already been addressed in the development versions (nearly all of his
quoted text complaints have been fixed in CVS) and we have already
pointed this out to him multiple times.

There still does not exist multi-depth quoted colouring, but I don't
recall that even being asked for before. Feel free to submit it to
bugzilla.ximian.com under the GtkHTML component and we'll get around to
it when we have a chance.

> Oh yeah, in case anyone's interested -- the two features I will need in order 
> to be persuaded to switch are:
>
> 1)  Ability to designate a program, rather than a file, as a signature (I use
> a fortune-like script to autogenerate my sigs -- see an example below)

This has already been implemented in CVS and will be ready for the 1.2
release.

> 2)  I use GnuPG encryption extensively.  When I'm replying to an encrypted
> email, I REALLY need the decrypted plaintext, not the ciphertext, to be what
> gets quoted in the composer window.  Cutting and pasting is not acceptable;
> it's a waste of time and I don't have to do it with my present mail client
> (KMail just asks for my passphrase again, and then quotes the decrypted
> message in a composer window).

I gather you must be using in-line PGP? This actually works quite well
for PGP/MIME encrypted messages (which is all I focused on when I
implemented PGP because that's what the standard is) but has still not
been fixed for inline PGP due to lack of time. I believe that someone
had volunteered to implement this but I have not heard back from him in
several months now so I have no idea where that patch stands.

Hopefully this will be implemented in time for a 1.4 release.

> It doesn't matter to me whether you ever implement these features or not,
> since a tool already exists that does everything I want (and most of what
> others have been asking for here).  But I won't be deploying Evolution on any
> systems that *I* build for other people until I see these features -- and a
> little more professionalism and courtesy on the part of the developers.
>
> Ken Barber

Jeff