Re: Again: Newbie questions/comments (Was: Re: [Evolution] Wish list/Todo ?)

[Oliver Sturm <o sturm manfred-dahlhoff de>]

Quoting Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>:

> Okay, I'll answer the rest of your message (the parts I didn't respond
> to from your first post).

Fine! Thanks a lot for your comments!

> >         * In my configuration, when checking someone's PGP signature, I
> >           always get a gpg message displayed (that is, using Debian
> >           Sid):
> >
> >        gpg: WARNING: --honor-http-proxy is a deprecated option.
> >        gpg: please use "--keyserver-options honor-http-proxy" instead
>
> this is because the gpg authors changed their command-line options with
> the release of 1.0.7. You can mostly just ignore that warning. The
> development version uses the command-line args that gpg 1.0.7 wants, for
> the rest running gpg 1.0.6 and earlier? upgrade or bitch at the gpg
> authors.

Yes, I already found by now that this is actually my problem. It was only
coincidence that I hadn't seen the same problem in other places yet.

> >         * Can I switch off that error-prone behavior of sending the
> >           message on Ctrl-Return?
>
> No, that is the key binding for sending... you should be used to it by
> now, most clients use that binding :-)

Well... I don't remember about Netscape, but Emacs (Gnus) doesn't, Mulberry
doesn't... quite sure about those. Anyhow, I think configurable key mappings
are not so far-out these days, are they?

> >         * It would be nice if the PGP module could try to download
> >           missing public keys from my configured key servers when
> >           checking a signature.
>
> it does, you know that warning you got above? yea, that would be the
> problem.

Whoa, I see.

> >         * Can I configure PGP signature checking to happen automatically
> >           when I open a message? 
>
> no, the reason it is not automatic is to provide assurance that the
> icon/text about the sig being authentic is not spoofed via html.

Ok, sounds like you thought about it... But that may also be a reason why
most other mailers I have seen display informational messages like that
outside the message text.

> >         * Having played around with the colored markers and filters, I
> >           now have some messages colored in a folder. The filter is long
> >           gone but the color stays. Is that a bug?
>
> nope, the effects of a filter are not tied to the existance of the
> filter that changed that aspect of the message. If it was, then if you
> deleted a filter that filtered your messages from Joe Bob Jr, then all
> his mail would have to be magically moved back to your Inbox. I think
> that'd be a bit counter-intuitive ;-)

I'm OK with that, but how do I uncolor the messages now?

> >         * Editing templates would be nice, too... Like, I type WTF and
> >           the editor automatically expands it.
>
> I don't see this happening ever. but if you want to submit it as a
> request, file it under GtkHTML's Editor component.

Any reason you could tell the world why you don't see this happening ever?

> >         * Can I configure parameters for the formats that translate to
> >           ascii text? Like the depth of indentation for bulleted lists
> >           or whether to use tabs. Can I create my own?
>
> Not that I know of. Again, this is GtkHTML not mailer.
>
> >         * Would be nice to have the bulleted list insert empty lines
> >           between bullets.
>
> GtkHTML

Well, think I'm a user (actually I'm mostly a programmer, but using 
Evolution, I'm a user). Do you think I really care about that? Sorry, I don't mean
to sound harsh and I certainly appreciate your time, but "not our problem" 
can't always be the answer if an application uses third-party components,
can it?

> >         * If I switch to "Show Email source", a header line called
> >           X-Evolution-Source is shown that's not really in the message.
> >           Shouldn't that really be a raw view on the message source, as
> >           the menu entry suggests?
>
> It is a raw view of the message source and that header does indeed exist
> in the raw message. It is added there by evolution so we can keep track
> of which account you downloaded the mail with so when you reply we can
> smartly choose which account to set the default From to.

Still, it's not part of the mail that was received... Do RFCs say that MUAs are
free to modify the header's of received mail (I honestly don't know). Anyhow,
I found it confusing and sent test mails around to make sure this wasn't actually
in messages I sent somewhere else.

> >         * Can I mark all content of a folder read in one go?
>
> You mean like Edit->Mark all as Read? yes :-)

Actually, I mean like Right click a folder-> Mark all as Read. But the feature
is the
same, that's right :-)

Thanks again, Jeff.


Oliver Sturm <O Sturm Manfred-Dahlhoff de>

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