Re: [Evolution] Filter question

[Michael Haun <mhaun osc uscg mil>]

Actually I have been using netscape to filter mail via IMAP for about 6
months.  Also I don't filter and send back to the server. I filter to
move things out of the IMAP server Inbox to local folders so it is
basically a download/remove instead of uploading a changed message.My
IMAP folder is for accessing my Inbox only. Anything I need to access
from anywhere else I keep there and everything else gets moved to local
folders.

Mike...

On 21 May 2001 14:57:42 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> On 21 May 2001 11:22:40 -0700, Matt Nelson wrote:
> > You should re-consider your priority for this feature.  It makes Evo 
> > nearly unusable for people who use IMAP and subscribe to several mailing 
> > lists.  Here is a rundown of my email use:
>
> This feature is one of the next things Dan will be implementing from
> what I understand. Currently he's working on disconnected IMAP.
>
> >   - subscribed to many mailing lists
> >   - depend on email for important business communications
> >   - have email client "automatically check" for new mail so that 
> > business-related messages don't go unnoticed.
> >   - filter out list-related messages so my Inbox should only contain 
> > business mail, and will be quickly noticed when it arrives.
> >
> > I doubt that the above is an unusual use of email.  In fact, I suspect 
> > that it is very common.
>
> I would agree that that is pretty common, that describes my mail setup
> as well.
>
> > Without automatic filtering, the above is not really possible because 
> > the Inbox is always cluttered so always demands attention.  I know that 
> > I won't use Evo as long as automatic IMAP filtering is missing.
>
> It is possible, you just need to setup server-side filtering. This is
> what I did.
>
> > BTW, was there a specific decision to exclude this functionality?  I am 
> > a bit confused, because all other email clients I have used seem to 
> > filter automatically.
>
> There was not a specific decision to exclude this functionality at all.
>
> You are quite a bit confused, there aren't many (if any?) mail clients
> that filter IMAP mail unless they treat IMAP like POP, in which case
> using IMAP is useless. If there is a client that does IMAP filtering
> without treating IMAP as if it were a POP server, then I'd like to know
> which one? I know Balsa, mutt, Netscape, Mozilla, pine, etc don't filter
> IMAP mail.
>
> I think you're thinking of mail clients that filter POP mail
> automatically (which Evolution *does* do).
>
> Filtering IMAP mail is not as easy as you would like to believe and in
> most cases, filtering IMAP mail is tremendously SLOW because you'd have
> to download the message, run your filter rules on it, and then append it
> back to the server. Now just imagine, if you will, opening Evolution and
> connecting to your IMAP server after you get back from a long vacation
> when you get 500 emails per day? I'm sensing that you would then be
> bitching that Evolution doesn't filter fast enough.
>
> What you *really* want is server-side filtering. With some IMAP servers
> this can be done using procmail on the server. To find out how you can
> do server-side IMAP filtering with your account, you should contact your
> administrator or someone who would know for sure.
>
> Future plans:
>
> There is a recent protocol (of which I forget the name) that defines a
> means for an IMAP client send filtering rules to the IMAP server but as
> far as I know, there are few (if any?) servers/clients that implement
> this yet. We do plan on supporting this but probably not until after
> 1.0.
>
> As another solution, we also plan on adding automatic filtering
> capability to Evolution before 1.0, but do understand that this might be
> slow and that these filters will NOT be applied when you connect using
> another IMAP client like mutt or whatever.
>
> Jeff
>
> > Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> >
> > > filters do not get applied to IMAP mail automatically because they are
> > > not "downloaded" when you hit Send & Receive. We do plan on adding a way
> > > to automatically filter IMAP mail at some point but I'm not sure when
> > > this will happen.
> > >
> > > Jeff
>
>
>
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