Re: [Evolution] Filter question

[Jeffrey Stedfast <fejj ximian com>]

Uhh, why don't you use POP then? I'm baffled by this. I really am...
It sounds to me that POP would be your ideal protocol since that's what
you are treating your IMAP mailboxes as anyway...

Jeff

On 21 May 2001 15:48:52 -0400, Michael Haun wrote:
> Actually I have been using netscape to filter mail via IMAP for about 6
> months.  Also I don't filter and send back to the server. I filter to
> move things out of the IMAP server Inbox to local folders so it is
> basically a download/remove instead of uploading a changed message.My
> IMAP folder is for accessing my Inbox only. Anything I need to access
> from anywhere else I keep there and everything else gets moved to local
> folders.
>
> Mike...
>
> On 21 May 2001 14:57:42 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > On 21 May 2001 11:22:40 -0700, Matt Nelson wrote:
> > > You should re-consider your priority for this feature.  It makes Evo 
> > > nearly unusable for people who use IMAP and subscribe to several mailing 
> > > lists.  Here is a rundown of my email use:
> >
> > This feature is one of the next things Dan will be implementing from
> > what I understand. Currently he's working on disconnected IMAP.
> >
> > >   - subscribed to many mailing lists
> > >   - depend on email for important business communications
> > >   - have email client "automatically check" for new mail so that 
> > > business-related messages don't go unnoticed.
> > >   - filter out list-related messages so my Inbox should only contain 
> > > business mail, and will be quickly noticed when it arrives.
> > >
> > > I doubt that the above is an unusual use of email.  In fact, I suspect 
> > > that it is very common.
> >
> > I would agree that that is pretty common, that describes my mail setup
> > as well.
> >
> > > Without automatic filtering, the above is not really possible because 
> > > the Inbox is always cluttered so always demands attention.  I know that 
> > > I won't use Evo as long as automatic IMAP filtering is missing.
> >
> > It is possible, you just need to setup server-side filtering. This is
> > what I did.
> >
> > > BTW, was there a specific decision to exclude this functionality?  I am 
> > > a bit confused, because all other email clients I have used seem to 
> > > filter automatically.
> >
> > There was not a specific decision to exclude this functionality at all.
> >
> > You are quite a bit confused, there aren't many (if any?) mail clients
> > that filter IMAP mail unless they treat IMAP like POP, in which case
> > using IMAP is useless. If there is a client that does IMAP filtering
> > without treating IMAP as if it were a POP server, then I'd like to know
> > which one? I know Balsa, mutt, Netscape, Mozilla, pine, etc don't filter
> > IMAP mail.
> >
> > I think you're thinking of mail clients that filter POP mail
> > automatically (which Evolution *does* do).
> >
> > Filtering IMAP mail is not as easy as you would like to believe and in
> > most cases, filtering IMAP mail is tremendously SLOW because you'd have
> > to download the message, run your filter rules on it, and then append it
> > back to the server. Now just imagine, if you will, opening Evolution and
> > connecting to your IMAP server after you get back from a long vacation
> > when you get 500 emails per day? I'm sensing that you would then be
> > bitching that Evolution doesn't filter fast enough.
> >
> > What you *really* want is server-side filtering. With some IMAP servers
> > this can be done using procmail on the server. To find out how you can
> > do server-side IMAP filtering with your account, you should contact your
> > administrator or someone who would know for sure.
> >
> > Future plans:
> >
> > There is a recent protocol (of which I forget the name) that defines a
> > means for an IMAP client send filtering rules to the IMAP server but as
> > far as I know, there are few (if any?) servers/clients that implement
> > this yet. We do plan on supporting this but probably not until after
> > 1.0.
> >
> > As another solution, we also plan on adding automatic filtering
> > capability to Evolution before 1.0, but do understand that this might be
> > slow and that these filters will NOT be applied when you connect using
> > another IMAP client like mutt or whatever.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > > Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > >
> > > > filters do not get applied to IMAP mail automatically because they are
> > > > not "downloaded" when you hit Send & Receive. We do plan on adding a way
> > > > to automatically filter IMAP mail at some point but I'm not sure when
> > > > this will happen.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
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