Re: Suggestion for default toolbar settings

On Mar 21, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Peter Harvey wrote:
Can someone provide the reason why it's two [toolbars] again? I have a suspicion it was something to do with "small screens", but perhaps there was another reason.

For the lazy reader, the key argument from that bug reads:

1 The Toolbar and Address Bar being welded together, leaving no room for any buttons besides the standard four (Back, Forward, Stop, and Reload)

2 Even for advanced users, the toolbar layout is annoying. The shortened address field doesnt show as much of a URI, and the auto-completion menu doesnt show as much of an auto-completion title, as it does in competing browsers.

FWIW, when I made that argument, the Mozilla suite (which I was talking about) had no way of choosing where or whether to have text on toolbar buttons. In the default Classic theme text was always shown, making the buttons take up lots of space.

So I think if Epiphany switches to one toolbar by default, it should switch to caption-less buttons by default too. The system-wide "Toolbar button labels" preference is a nice idea in theory, but it's worse than useless in practice, because (a) the most appropriate default is highly dependent on the application, (b) it causes Customize Toolbar dialogs to have two "Toolbar button labels:" options that have exactly the same effect, and (c) that the "Default" can even be configured is not at all obvious.

Matthew Paul Thomas

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