Re: roadmap discussion

[Reinout van Schouwen <reinouts gnome org>]

Hello Nigel,

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Nigel Tao wrote:

> I don't imagine the panel applet being a _replacement_ for the existing
> Bookmarks menu.  It is just a convenience, and as a user I would be
> surprised if a part of browser's fundamental functionality was not
> accessible through its menu system (even if it was available elsewhere -

FYI, in the very first versions of Epiphany it didn't have a Bookmarks 
menu - we considered the Bookmarks window to be sufficient. Lots of 
people protested and we ended up with a Bookmarks menu that doesn't work 
well for large numbers of topics. Epiphany developers have been trying 
to mend this situation by allowing to preserve hierarchies when 
importing bookmarks from other browsers, and a automatic hierarchy 
system is currently under development.

Anyhow, although I agree that bookmarks are fundamental functionality, I 
don't see how they should be bound to one browser. If they can be 
"outsourced" to the desktop environment, it will simplify the browser 
UI.

> the GNOME panel feels somewhat too far removed to be the sole location).

The Bookmarks window / toolbar button would still be there.

> panel Actions menu but individual applications (e.g. OpenOffice, gEdit)
> still have their own File menu.

I'm not calling for removal of the File menu (not at this point, that is 
;-).

> Emblems... for bookmarks?  Or make bookmarks viewable in nautilus (I can

See bug 113444 for example (there are more, but I can't find them right 
now).

> open "fonts://" in nautilus, why not "bookmarks://")?  Bookmarks just as

Suggesting to have new URI namespaces is Bad. See for instance 
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-October/msg00121.html

> RedHat (Fedora Core 3) also prefer Firefox over Epiphany.  And

:-(

> is because I have to use Windows at work, and so Firefox is what I am 
> used to.

I don't follow this argumentation. A lot of small but noticeable details 
are different between Firefox/win32 and Firefox/linux. Yes, sharing 
bookmarks between different browsers/workplaces is a big win but 
technically doesn't require using the same browser everywhere.

> bar when I open a new tab, which I think has been entered into bugzilla
> but progress has stalled for whatever reason.

Yeah, this is one of the most reported problems. If the Ephy team could 
do anything else about it apart from what's already done, they would.

regards,

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