Re: LiveCD Media Project

[Ian McIntosh <ian_mcintosh linuxadvocate org>]

> If we can find it, maybe a copy of the redhat 'first they ignore you...'
> video?

Given the space limitations, only one video will fit.  Do you prefer
"first they ignore you..." (FTIY) to "Building on the Past"?

Just a thought: if FTIY isn't under a CC license it might make things
more difficult.

Regardless, let me know if you can find FTIY because I'd like to see it!

> > MP3/OGG, 4MB, a CreativeCommons-licensed track? (which?)
>
> I can rip any/all of the Wired CC CD if you need it. (It's still in the
> pristine wrapper ATM, oddly enough.)

Good idea.  We'd just have to pick some tracks.  The whole thing is
available here: http://creativecommons.org/wired/ (but they're in MP3
format).

I think the question is which songs have the broadest appeal, and which
fit in best with the LiveCD experience. 

I solicited input from my musician roommate and together we chose:

 Dan the Automator - Relaxation Spa Treatment
 Gilbert Gil - Oslodum
 Thievery Corporation - DC 3000

But I'd love to hear other opinions.  Also, if anyone knows of other
good CreativeCommons music, please share.

We would need at least a 15 meg allowance to put more than one song on
there.  With just one song and one video we may be busting our 10 meg
limit. :/  (Relaxation Spa Treatment is the smallest at around 2 megs.)

Another possibility is to have the songs fade out after a minute.  Then
we could include several tunes in different formats.

> > JPG/PNG, 1MB, some nature photos or GNOME-branded art? (which?)
>
> Unless we find something oddly compelling, I don't think we need flat 2D
> art here- showing off 'we can show images' in 2004 is roughly like
> bragging about printing text, it seems to me.

The reason I wanted to include it is not so much to prove that it can
show images, but rather to give them something to play with in gThumb or
the GIMP.  Plus, to show how Nautilus draws pretty thumbnails.

> I'd be uncomfortable shipping calc and writer without also shipping .abi
> and .gnumeric docs. I'd even ship those in preference, at this time.
> It's not a Free Desktop disc- it's a GNOME disc.

What is the status of the GNOME LiveCD?  Right now I was assuming this
data would first be used on the Ubuntu LiveCD which (I think) only has
OO.o. I could be wrong about this (Jeff?).

If this/another LiveCD has AbiWord/Gnumeric we should certainly make
example files for them.

> In an ideal world, someone could do an MPG->Theora conversion and we'd
> ship Theora in preference to MPG, assuming we want to be consistent
> about our message.

I'm not entirely sure I agree with the presumption here.  Is it better
to choose OGG over MP3 or Theora over MPG for a Demo CD?  I wonder if
saying "it plays your files" is better than "it plays these cool but
relatively unknown open format files."  It may be more realistic in this
non-ideal world. :/  But I'm a bit torn about this.  Thoughts?

-Ian