Re: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy

[Bret Busby <bret busby net>]

On Fri, 17 May 2013, fred k wrote:

> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 22:04:47
> From: fred k <fred k member fsf org>
> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list gnome org>
> To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list gnome org>
> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy
>
> Hi guys/gals, another voice from the sideline:
>
> First off, I appreciate active developers for thinking about GNOME, UI 
> design, GTK compatibilities, etc, etc. I/we, users, benefited from YOU a 
> bunch. *Thank you!*
>
> For GNOME3, I have unfavorable first impression. Tweaking debian 7.0 for a 
> few hours, I couldn't find a couple of setting dialogs that existed before, 
> even hit some abnormal exits and freezes. I'm not sure GNOME's the culprit or 
> something else is, but I'll stay debian 5 at least for now until deb 7 
> stabilizes, or GNOME 2.4 until 3.x stabilizes.
>
> Since I've been comfortable with ekiga 2.4 UI design, ekiga 4.0.1 on GNOME3 
> somewhat confuses me. I'll expect some learning curve, though.
>
> fred_k

Hello.

I am running Debian 6.0.x amd64 version, which is running GNOME 
2.3.something (I think).

I have just checked the GNOME Terninal Help -> About, in which I am 
running pine (now named alpine), and that shows version number 2.30.2, 
which I assume to be the vesion number of the GNOME that is running on 
this system.

Debian 6 would probably work with you.

The primary problem that I have with the operating system, is that it 
will not use swap memory - I have 8GB RAM, and a 40GB swap partition, 
but it will run out of RAM and crash, without using the swap partition.

However, that appears to be particular to me, from the feedback that I 
have received from the Debian Users list.

It could just be that the amd64 version of Debian 6, has not yet 
achieved stability.

I do not know.

A problem that I see with running Debian 5 (I think that I am still 
running it on our firewall/gateway machine, but that is because the 
firewall software, which appears to still work, is now obsolete), is 
that I understand that no updates, security or otherwise, are being 
provided for Debian 5, which would make Debian 5 a vulnerability (I 
think). I could be wrong in that.

When I upgrade the OS, it will probably be to PC-BSD (which will 
probably be a steep learning curve - I haven't used BSD, since BSD 4.2, 
on a VAX, as a user, and, not as a systems administrator, in the early 
1980's, I think). I think that PC-BSD 9 runs GNOME 2.x .

I assume that Ekiga will run on PC-BSD.

Apparently, PC-BSD will run Linux software within a jail (like a 
sandbox, I think).

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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