Re: DSF Tagging - Feedback

[Scott Furry <scott wl furry gmail com>]

Have a look at this - http://id3.org/ID3v2Easy
Then ask the question "does dsf spec allow for non-music or information 
frames in the format?".

Reading the wiki page for it 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital) I would gather this 
is a "niche", vendor specific format that people in the open source 
community have not spent a lot of time on. IANAL, but licensing may also 
be an issue.

S

On 11/19/2014 09:25 PM, Ran Perry wrote:
> If I tag a FLAC and MP3 files with EasyTag, MPD will read them without 
> a problem. DSF, which should work in the same way has this problem. 
> So, I believe the issue is specifically within the dsf tagging.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Scott Furry 
> <scott wl furry gmail com <mailto:scott wl furry gmail com>> wrote:
>
>
>     A quick look at MPD's dependencies (old wiki? -
>     http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Development_Dependencies_on_Debian_Derivitive)
>     shows libid3tag is required. So MPD should read id3 tags. Assuming
>     its been programmed to accept or look for id3 tags in a dsf file.
>
>     If you can see the id3 tags in a dsf file after setting them in
>     EasyTag and re-parsing the file. EasyTag is not the issue. Again,
>     not all libraries/developers are "aware" to look for tags in some
>     audio files.
>
>     Maybe a id3/dsf extension for mpd is needed?
>
>     S
>
>
>     On 11/19/2014 09:08 PM, Ran Perry wrote:
>
>         Agreed. I don't care much about Foobar. My main listening
>         application is MPD which cannot read the tags as well. I
>         believe MPD uses the same libraries as EasyTag.
>
>         On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Scott Furry
>         <scott wl furry gmail com <mailto:scott wl furry gmail com>
>         <mailto:scott wl furry gmail com
>         <mailto:scott wl furry gmail com>>> wrote:
>
>             FYI - id3 is not an RFC or other specification - just a
>             defined/documented format that others have agreed to use -
>         sort of.
>
>             I have encountered applications that tag files using app-only
>             defined tag names - just not necessarily ones spelled out
>         in the
>             id3 documents. Just because an application doesn't
>         recognize tags
>             written to id3 headers in a non-mp3/ogg/flac file does not
>         put the
>             problem with EasyTag.
>
>             I would check with "FooBar" docs/src to ensure the tag
>         they are
>             looking for are the same ones spelled out in id3 (and not
>             "foobar-artist" or something similar).
>
>             S
>
>             On 11/19/2014 08:29 PM, Ran Perry wrote:
>
>                 OK, Some progress. EasyTag does not crash anymore and
>         the only
>                 things I see when I run backtrace is a message about new
>                 threads. Now, the problem I am experiencing is that
>         although
>                 EasyTag can successfully tag dsf files (both 2.3 and
>         2.4), no
>                 other application can read those tags. EasyTag will
>         write and
>                 read the tags without a problem but other applications
>         will
>                 show no tags.
>
>                 This is how EasyTag sees the files:
>
>         http://imgur.com/s15xa9V
>
>                 And this is how FooBar sees them:
>
>         http://imgur.com/cLT58Yp
>
>                 Backtrace log:
>
>                 [New Thread 0x7fffe5543700 (LWP 16465)]
>                 [New Thread 0x7fffc6ffd700 (LWP 16467)]
>                 [New Thread 0x7fffc77fe700 (LWP 16468)]
>                 [Thread 0x7fffe5543700 (LWP 16465) exited]
>                 [Thread 0x7fffc6ffd700 (LWP 16467) exited]
>                 [Thread 0x7fffc77fe700 (LWP 16468) exited]
>
>
>                 Thanks,
>
>                 Ran
>
>                 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Ran Perry
>                 <therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>>
>                 <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>
>                 <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>>>> wrote:
>
>                     Please ignore. Issue solved. Let the testing
>         commence....
>
>                     On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Ran Perry
>                     <therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>
>                 <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>>
>                 <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>
>
>                 <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>>>> wrote:
>
>                         This is the output when running configure:
>
>                         Configuration for EasyTAG 2.3.1 :
>                         --------------------------------
>
>                         Source code location ....: .
>                         Host System Type ........:
>         x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
>                         Preprocessor ............: gcc
>                         Deprecation defines .....:
>         -DG_DISABLE_SINGLE_INCLUDES
>                         -DGTK_DISABLE_SINGLE_INCLUDES
>         -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
>                         -DGLIB_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=GLIB_VERSION_2_32
>                         -DGLIB_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED=GLIB_VERSION_2_32
>                         -DGDK_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=GDK_VERSION_3_4
>                         -DGDK_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED=GDK_VERSION_3_4
>                         Compiler ................: gcc -g -O2
>                         Compiler warnings .......: -Wall
>         -Wstrict-prototypes
>                         -Wnested-externs -Werror=missing-prototypes
>                         -Werror=implicit-function-declaration
>                 -Werror=pointer-arith
>                         -Werror=init-self -Werror=format-security
>         -Werror=format=2
>                         -Werror=missing-include-dirs
>                 -Werror=declaration-after-statement
>                         C++ Compiler warnings ...: -Wall
>                 -Werror=missing-prototypes
>                         -Werror=implicit-function-declaration
>                 -Werror=pointer-arith
>                         -Werror=init-self -Werror=format-security
>         -Werror=format=2
>                         -Werror=missing-include-dirs
>                 -Werror=declaration-after-statement
>                         Linker ..................: gcc
>                         MP3 file support ........: yes
>                         ID3v2.3 tags support ....: yes (id3lib-3.8.3)
>                         Ogg Vorbis file support .: yes
>                         Ogg Speex file support ..: yes
>                         Ogg Opus file support ...: no
>                         FLAC file support .......: yes
>                         MP4 file support ........: yes
>                         WavPack support .........: yes
>                         NLS/gettext .............: yes
>                         Nautilus actions ........: no
>                         Tests during make check .: yes
>                         Install prefix ..........: /usr/local
>
>
>                         On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:03 PM, David King
>                         <amigadave amigadave com
>         <mailto:amigadave amigadave com>
>                 <mailto:amigadave amigadave com
>         <mailto:amigadave amigadave com>>
>                 <mailto:amigadave amigadave com
>         <mailto:amigadave amigadave com>
>                 <mailto:amigadave amigadave com
>         <mailto:amigadave amigadave com>>>> wrote:
>
>                             Hi Ran
>
>                             On 2014-11-19 16:40, Ran Perry
>                 <therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>>
>                             <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>
>                 <mailto:therealranperry gmail com
>         <mailto:therealranperry gmail com>>>> wrote:
>
>                                 I have started fresh with a new
>         directory and
>                 EasyTag
>                                 still cannot detect
>                                 dsf files.
>
>
>                             I double-checked, and the changes were for
>         writing DSF
>                             tags, so it is very likely a local
>         configuration
>                 problem.
>
>                             -- http://amigadave.com/
>
>
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