Re: projects-old.gnome.org being discontinued

[Andrea Veri <av gnome org>]

Liam,

thanks for your comments, an additional note: this is actually NOT the
old page as in theory whenever we'll have a new way of handling
projects views the former (and to be considered old) website is going
to be [1]. In 2013 we migrated several of those links to what
projects.gnome.org is today and left projects-old un-maintained
(individual maintainers were taking care of maintaining their own
projects) which led to multiple of those links to become obsolete /
historical (pre 2010) / not relevant anymore. Do you see any value in
keeping those URLs around even if they're historical and not relevant
since several years?

cheers,

[1] https://projects.gnome.org
Il giorno gio 6 dic 2018 alle ore 22:23 Liam R E Quin
<liam holoweb net> ha scritto:
> On Thu, 2018-12-06 at 12:31 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
> > Liam,
> >
> > no, I really meant projects-old.gnome.org which as I described on my
> > original e-mail was the pre-2013 projects page we had running before
> > transitioning to the new wiki.g.o based projects listing.
>
> Yes, i understood that. Sorry if i wasn't clear.
>
> >  I believe the engagement team was looking
> > into possible new ways to unify projects listing into one single
> > view, not sure what's the status there though.
>
> Then i'd suggest holding off until you know, because redirecting the
> old page to a new mechanism would make the most sense. As i said,
> there's lots of links to projects-old.gnome.org.
>
> Liam
>
> > cheers,
> > Il giorno mer 5 dic 2018 alle ore 21:10 Liam R E Quin
> > <liam holoweb net> ha scritto:
> > > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:22 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > > the projects-old website [1] was decided to be left around in
> > > > 2013
> > > > right after transitioning projects pages to the GNOME's wiki
> > > > (projects.g.o is a vhost that contains a set of redirects since
> > > > then)
> > >
> > > i think you mean projects.gnome.org, right?
> > >
> > > That seems to be a lot less complete, and also just has project
> > > names
> > > and not explanations. So there's (out of date) information being
> > > lost.
> > >
> > > There are also a lot of external links to the page, so you'll break
> > > a
> > > lot of links (and, for what it's worth, hurt gnome.org's search
> > > ranking
> > > a little in the process). But this could be mitigated with an HTTP
> > > redirect to a page telling people how to find what they might have
> > > wanted.
> > >
> > > > for a short period of time while the transition was happening. I
> > > > believe it's now a good time (after 5+ years!) to retire the
> > > > former
> > > > website all together.
> > >
> > > If it goes, it might be helpful to add short descriptions to
> > > projects.gnome.org, although that would mean a bunch of work of
> > > course.
> > > The (current) wiki pages are not organized enough to make this a
> > > question of easy scraping so maybe the answer is to automate
> > > something
> > > that grabs the page title from the linked pages, and encourage
> > > project
> > > maintaners to edit their wiki pages as needed?
> > >
> > > On the other hand it's fun exploring the page to find out what
> > > things
> > > are :)
> > >
> > > The new page is much better overall, even without descriptions,
> > > because
> > > of the division into categories.
> > >
> > > Liam (irc::ankh)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> --
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> with fabulous vintage art and fascinating texts to read.
> Click here to have the slave beaten.


-- 
Cheers,

Andrea

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Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
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