Re: Opening the 3.12 cycle

[Alberto Ruiz <aruiz gnome org>]

Hey Andrew,  Zeeshan,

2013/9/24 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <zeeshanak gnome org>:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Andrew W. Nosenko
> <andrew w nosenko gmail com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
> > <jstpierre mecheye net> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai <atai gnu org> wrote:
> > > > what would this mean for systems not using systemd?
> > >
> > >
> > > Systems not using systemd already fall back to ConsoleKit, which does not
> > > have any maintainer. We don't support features like suspend or hibernate on
> > > ConsoleKit anymore and it's pretty much on life support only at this point.
> > >
> > > For 3.12, we will keep the old gnome-session and gdm code that uses
> > > ConsoleKit and fork/exec ourselves in the case where you compile without
> > > logind support, but I wouldn't expect it to be around much longer.
> > >
> > > Do you have any specific examples of systems not using systemd that you
> > > would like to run GNOME on?
> >
> > Did you heard about FreeBSD?
>
> How many people use FreeBSD? I doubt its a significant enough number
> for us to spend our time and resources on it.

Really? How many people use GNU/Linux distros? From that POV we are
better off targeting Android. I don't think GNOME is in the OS
popularity contest.

There are much more compelling answers to Andrew's request, and I for
one would like to see people working on getting GNOME working on BSD's
as long as they understand that the majority of people run Linux and
that we are trying to achieve a certain level of integration with the
OS and that we expect certain features and services to achieve GNOME's
goals.

People can get GNOME working on the *BSDs, but is the developers
running those OSes the ones that have to figure out a way to catch up
with Linux and work with upstreams, it's just not realistic

> > PS. Do you know any OS that _uses_ systemd at all beside Linux?
>
> But apparently its the only free OS worth caring about. I think Jasper
> was asking about distros as I'm pretty sure he is well aware that
> systemd doesn't run on an archaic OSs, such as FreeBSD.

Worth caring about? I care about any OS that has an OSI approved
license, I happen to run some incarnation of GNU/Linux and I try to
make things work on that one because it's the one I use. But that
doesn't mean that other OSes are not worthy of care by other people.
It's just up to those people to try to get things running on it.

> --
> Regards,
>
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> FSF member#5124
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Cheers,
Alberto Ruiz