Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup

[Sam Thursfield <ssssam gmail com>]

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Allan Day <allanpday gmail com> wrote:
> Michael Terry wrote:
>> Hi, Allan.  Thanks for your past and continuing help with design!  :)
>> Answers below.
>>
>> On 11 May 2011 11:33, Allan Day <allanpday gmail com> wrote:
>> > This looks like an improvement on the UI that you presented the last
>> > time you proposed Deja Dup. It could still be much better though. How
>> > would you feel about paring it down to something more minimal? Ideally,
>> > the UI should be limited to switching it and on/off, selecting the
>> > backup storage location, and giving an idea of status (a little 'hey,
>> > you're backups are fine!').
>>
>> So specifically, you're talking about dropping:
>>  * Encryption toggle
>>  * Include/exclude
>>  * How long to keep backups
>>  * How often to back up
>>
>> I'm happy to have a discussion about what to do for each.
>
> That's great to hear. I'll follow that up with you.
>
>> > One question: I know that you had a discussion on the usability list
>> > about renaming Deja Dup. Would you be happy to remove the remaining
>> > references to Deja Dup in the UI and just call it Backup?
>>
>> The only remaining references are the one-time welcome screen and the
>> help documentation.  I'm not fully wedded to those, though I'm
>> hesitant to remove all instances.
>>
>> I can think of a at least a couple reasons at least a one-time brand is useful:
>>  * Some branding (even only once) is useful here to reassure user it
>> will read the backup data they made elsewhere.
>>  * The user can install it on non-GNOME and they need to know what app
>> to search for.
>
> Since the moduleset reorganisation, we make a distinction between GNOME
> core and GNOME applications. If a module is part of the core it's
> supposed to be an integrated part of the user experience (as you've said
> you want to aim for - yay!), and it's supposed to use GNOME
> infrastructure.
>
> Looking at your proposal it seems that you are proposing Deja Dup for
> inclusion in the GNOME core. You also seem to want it to be developed on
> LP and for it to simultaneously exist as a standalone app, though. This
> opens up some potentially tricky issues:
>
... snip ...
>
>  * Branding - a part of the core should be branded as a part of GNOME 3,
> and I don't think we'd want GNOME's new backup facility to visibly exist
> outside of GNOME.

Could you clarify this one a little? On first read it sounds like "if
Deja Dup becomes part of GNOME core, you aren't allowed to have it on
any other platforms" although I'm sure that's not at all what you
meant. I'm struggling to pick up what you do mean though.

> Sorry for the potentially difficult questions!

Thanks
Sam