Re: Help Wanted Installing jhbuild on LFS 6.8
- From: bsquared <bwcode4u gmail com>
- To: gnome-desktop-devel <desktop-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Help Wanted Installing jhbuild on LFS 6.8
- Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 10:22:43 -0700
Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
You already did. jhbuild will install in whatever you specified as prefix.
[1]
The jhbuild instructions are for people who already have a proper gnome2
install and want to try out gnome3 easily safely: run a shell script,
jhbuild build, jhbuild run gnome-shell --replace. There's no chance that
accidentally overriding your gnome2 gnome-settings-daemon with a gnome3 one
will break your install, because jhbuild doesn't touch your install. There's
a lot of gnome-specific voodoo playing with environment variables,
LD_PRELOAD hacks so that you have no chance of touching anything outside of
your jhbuild prefix.
[2]
But this approach only goes so far: there's eventually going to be a point
where you'll need a newer polkit or networkmanager version, and whoops,
those need to run those as root.
I am unfamiliar iwth LFS: does it have a common packaging or build system?
[3]
[1]
I was not clear. I understand the the 'make install' command was
executed by jhbuild and the module was installed in the prefix as a
chroot kind of environment, but How does one install Gnome 3 as it is in
a distribution? In my Ubuntu system Gnome is not installed in /opt, it
is installed in /usr. I believe that this would follow FHS.
[2]
To reiterate an earlier message, the Gnome site indicates using jhbuild
in the 'how do I get it' page for Gnome 3. However, they don't seem to
address how to use it in a "Live" environment.
[3]
LFS itself does not have a package manager. However there are
suggestions offered, and I chose to use a user based package management
system referred to as package users. Installs are done as specific
package users eg. xorg user installs X windows packages, gnome-core user
installs the gnome-core modules...
As it is now my system in development has the basics of a GNU/Linux
system, Now I want to add the X windows environment with Gnome 3. I do
not have or want Gnome 2 installed.
When I tried with /usr as the prefix, there were some issues beyond the
'etc' directory.
The bootstrap command (run as jhbuild user) failed at nearly every
module because it was attempting to re-install packages (some older
versions) that had been installed as package users eg. automake was
installed as automake user.
root [ / ]# stat /usr/bin/automake
File: `/usr/bin/automake'
Size: 257062 Blocks: 512 IO Block: 4096 regular file
Device: 811h/2065d Inode: 266480 Links: 2
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: (10027/automake) Gid: (10026/automake)
Access: 2011-05-07 19:57:19.000000000 -0700
Modify: 2011-03-24 09:37:18.000000000 -0700
Change: 2011-03-24 09:37:18.000000000 -0700
Birth: -
jhbuild user cannot over write this user's files.
So I have to figure this out as well.
As always I appreciate the help.
Thanks again, Brian
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