Re: Appearance properties

[Frederic Crozat <fcrozat mandriva com>]

Le 10/11/2009 18:18, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 17:58 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > Le 10/11/2009 17:36, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
> > > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 17:23 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > > > Le 10/11/2009 15:23, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
> > > <snip>
> > > > It is quite simple : this change affected all ISV (we could say inkscape
> > > > was an ISV for instance, or Firefox) which were using GTK+, without any
> > > > kind of prior notification to be able to fix their application.
> > > >
> > > > That is the reason why I had to revert the "icon in button" and "icon in
> > > > menu" on Mandriva Linux 2010.
> > >
> > > Vendors had 4 months head-way to test for changes, and fix them. If 4
> > > months isn't enough, I'm not sure how much advance warning we need to
> > > give for something so easily fixable.
> >
> > I don't remember seeing the announcement for this change anywhere and
> > people discovered it after libgnome 2.27.5 was released in end of july
> > (or a little before when it was committed on July 14).
>
> It was posted to d-d-l, and Andreas blogged about it on Planet. I'm not
> sure what else we can do.

Andreas blogged about it after the changes, on July 24, as "GNOME Art 
team" (which sound strange, I would expect this kind of change to be 
discussed and announced by usability team)).

The "announcement" was a simple "Visible control to toggle icons in 
buttons" with absolutely nothing indicative of what people might find in 
the mail itself and was sent on July 22.

That is not "proper" announcement.

There was no prior discussion on usability list and when people raised 
concerns on it after the change was made (and even now) or how it was 
made, they are being treated like children.

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Frederic Crozat
Mandriva