Hi! CC'ing GNOME shell list as this is probably the space this should be discussed. > As the deskbar-applet maintainer I'm very concerned that are no clear > plans for an applet/desktop widget framework, yet. I guess porting an > applet to the new yet-to-be-invented framework would take considerable > time. Because there's currently no plan for a new framework it will take > some time until there is a time and the framework is actually usable. > Hopefully it's not already too late to start porting applets then. I > think it would be a big mistake to omit applets in the new gnome desktop > evolution. I don't think applets in the way we think of them currently are a very great thing and they have been overused in the past (as have notifications). Nevertheless, some applets are generally useful, like tomboy or hamster. For deskbar, I think it should be integrated with gnome-shell itself. It already has some box to type so this could evolve into a deskbar input box. For the others the point of bringing up a standard is not that bad imho. Let's face it that have have about 1 year left and even in this year it would be ok to have standard draft that is implemented in GNOME 3.0 and is 90% stable while the rest 10% missing for the 1.0 standard release can be done afterwards. This API should contain the possibilty to add a "widget" (likely an XWindow of some kind) into some "panel" that is *not* just an icon because we have the notification area for icons. On the other hand, if you look at the very recent gnome-shell mockups it could be difficult to find space for those. Maybe something should replace the applets then. Whatever this may be - be creative - now it's time to make things better. Regards, Johannes
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