Re: [g-a-devel] a11y module proposal: MouseTweaks (i.e.: software click)

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi Francesco:

We discussed MouseTweaks at the summit at think it definitely looks like 
it provides great functionality for the intended users.  Overall, we 
support the module proposal, though we also recommend working with the 
GNOME Usablity folks (http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/) on any 
user interface improvements that would make its configuration and use 
better for the target user base.  When working with them, I think it 
will be very important to remind them who the target users are and what 
the typical user interaction model will be.

As an aside, did you give consideration to making the mouse handling 
portions of this an X Server Extension?  The reason I ask is that when 
developing AccessX many years ago, we originally did it as a client 
instead of an extension.  At the time, we were encouraged to merge with 
the XKB Server Extension.  We did that, and the result is that AccessX 
functionality pretty much ubiquitous now (yeah!).  Times were different 
back then, however.  Today, it seems like getting an X Server Extension 
accepted and deployed might be more arduous and take a bit longer.  So, 
if MouseTweaks works great as a client-only solution, then perhaps the 
server extension idea is not that important.

Thanks!

Will

PS - Your video really helped a lot with the understanding of why 
MouseTweaks is important and useful.

Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi Francesco:
>
> No problem with replying late - I happen to be up late.  :-)  I took a 
> look at the video and downloaded/installed MouseTweaks on my OpenSolaris 
> Laptop running GNOME 2.20.0.  With a little futzing with the install, I 
> was able to get it to work.  It looks like a very interesting and useful 
> tool, and your recordmydesktop video demo of it was great.
>
> I've added it to the agenda for today and will bring it up for discussion. 
>
> Thanks for the effort!
>
> Will
>
> Francesco Fumanti wrote:
>   
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > First of all, sorry for replying so late.
> >
> >
> > At 3:24 PM -0400 10/1/07, Willie Walker wrote:
> >   
> >     
> > > If you know of anyone that might even be remotely related to MouseTweaks
> > > and could talk about it (e.g., demo, use cases, remaining work, etc.), I'd be
> > > really happy to add it to the agenda for the accessibility summit.
> > >     
> > >       
> > I only know of 3 people related to MouseTweaks:
> > - Henrik Nilsen Omma <henrikATubuntuDOTcom> who submitted it as a GSoC 2007 (at least I think so)
> > - Gerd Kohlberger <lowfiATchelloCOMat> who implemented it as a GSoC 2007
> > - and myself who wrote the first version of the specification
> >
> > I don't know whether Henrik is comming, but I don't think so.
> >
> > So I just created a demo of mousetweaks in GNOME by using the software recordmydesktop. I posted it here (it is about 53 MB):
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/MouseTweaks?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=moustweaks-video.ogg
> >
> > Please, be aware that the version of mousetweaks that you can watch in the demo is not the most current one:
> >
> > For example, the current version in the trunk does not have a notification icon anymore; it has been replaced by an item in the Accessibility menu that resides in the Applications menu.
> >
> > Moreover, it is planned to add a checkbox to the preferences panel to run and kill mousetweaks.
> >
> >
> > I hope that the video can be helpful; but I am afraid that it might be a bit late.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> >     
> > > I'd also like to hear more about onBoard and future plans for it.  One of the
> > > potential ideas for "real work" that could be done is porting/rewriting GOK
> > > in Python to allow more scripting and customization capabilities.  I wonder,
> > > however, if it might make sense to try to roll the 'best of' GOK into onBoard
> > > and then propose onBoard as a replacement for GOK.  Yes, I know I'm
> > > close to opening a can of worms here...
> > >     
> > >       
> > I really don't have a clue whether it might make sense to try to port/merge... gok and onboard.
> >
> > The best might be to talk to the author of onboard:
> > "Chris Jones" <skatingDOTtortoiseATgmailDOTcom>
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> >
> >
> > Francesco
> >
> >
> >   
> >     
>
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