Re: Proposed module: cheese



On Fr, 2007-12-21 at 21:21 +0100, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2007 9:06 PM, Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 04:52 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/projects/cheese/
> > > svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/cheese/
> > > Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-September/msg00289.html
> > >
> > > Short description:
> > > ==================
> > > cheese is a photobooth-inspired GNOME application for taking pictures
> > > and videos from a webcam. it also includes fancy graphical effects based
> > > on the gstreamer-backend. further releases will include conduit support
> > > for exchanging pictures and videos and some opengl-love to speed things
> > > up
> >
> > <disclaimer>
> > This is an analysis of the documentation, made on behalf of the
> > Gnome Documentation Team.  It does not necessarily reflect my
> > personal opinion of the module or its suitability for inclusion
> > in Gnome.  In many cases, I have not made extension use of the
> > applications or libraries provided.  Further insufficiencies in
> > the documentation may become more apparent with more use.
> > </disclaimer>
> >
> > Cheese has a manual, though it is largely a stub, and it hasn't
> > seen any commits in two weeks.  The Cheese developers have not
> > approached the Gnome Documentation Team about the documentation.
> >
> > (Reminder: proposing an undocumented module is not a problem.
> > Hackers are often not good writers, and we don't expect that
> > people bring fully documented programs to our doorstep.  But
> > if you need documentation help, you need to contact us early.)
> >
> I'm one of the developers of cheese and feel that cheese is not ready
> yet for inclusion because
> 
> 1) We completely refactored the gstreamer backend and haven't had a
> release since. So I'm not sure if it works well for every webcam

thats absolutely right. we dont have a clue at the moment, on how many
webcams cheese actually works. for now, we got about 10 reports of
different webcams, where cheese actually worked.

> 2) Cheese needs more HIG love

you are right. im not really convinced with the ui at the moment and we
can do better for shure.

> 3) Also feature wise it needs some more things for it to be 1.0
> material (preference dialog, ability to select multiple items in the
> icon view

sorry, but if we think in that way, we will never reach a 1.0 version. a
software is never finished and you can always add more and more
features. on the other hand its true that we are missing some features,
that would really enhance the workflow with cheese.

> 4) And as Shaun is mentioning, we need a manual

there is a bug! ehm somewhere... hmm..
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480628

jaap: should we forward that to the doc team?

5) vincent needs some more ice to be convinced ;)

> 
> I think it's better to wait for 2.24

i dont want to take that decision. but in my opinion its getting close:
feature freeze is on january 17th. that means we would have to finish
our feature list by that date. is that possible?

daniel

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