Re: Integrated CD ripping/playing (instead of goobox/sound juicer)

[Alan Horkan <horkana maths tcd ie>]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Karel Demeyer wrote:

> > > I read such an idea on dotKDE as well at some point. Some dude wrote an
> > > extension that lets you rip CDs like that by typing the URI
> > > cd-ripper-ogg:// or cd-ripper-flac:// or so.

> > That is an ugly implementation detail and horrible when it comes to
> > discovery but I wouldn't completely reject the underlying concept,
> > I think the pricipal of it isn't that bad.

> > What is Nautilus going to show when you view an Audio CD?
> > Presumably a list of .cda files which isn't very useful.
> >
> > I recall reading that on BeOS if you tried to copy a .cda file it would
> > transparently give you a WAV file.
> >
> > Rather than creating yet another evil URI I would hope that there could be
> > some way this could be handled almost transparently so that to the user it
> > appears as if they are copying files directly off the Audio CD much as
> > they would do any other file off any other medium?  Wouldn't being able to
> > drag and drop a file from the CD to your desktop be the easiest way to go?
> > (This wouldn't preclude a tool like Sound Juicer for ripping whole disks
> > en masse and streamling the whole process anymore than Browser mode
> > Nautilus precludes Spatial Nautilus.)

> That's just what I try to say :D, no new URI, just open the CD like a
> data CD and drag the files to rip 'm (what the user sees/thinks)

I was agreeing with you

> > I dont understand this urge to kill off gnome-cd.  I actually quite like
> > the basic layout (does one thing well) and find programs like Rythmbox a
> > bit cluttered when I just want to play a CD.  I do have the CD case
> > infront of me which usually has the information I need but dont always
> > have an active internet connection and want or need detailed infromation
> > about the CD.  To be honest I probably use the CD player only because I
> > want slightly more functionality that is available from the hardware CD
> > player built in to the drive itself.
> >
> > By all means add Sound Juicer or some other CD ripping functionality but I
> > don't get why it necessitates killing off the straighforward CD Player
> > that plays CDs.

> It would be stupid to have 2 apps that only are there to play cd's.

If you view ripping and playing as the same tasks and can cleanly put them
in the one interface that might be true.

On the other hand we have people who would seem to be happy with a singel
all in one media player which frankly I would find clunky and inelegant.

Sincerely

Alan Horkan

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