Re: moving windows above the top panel

["Eugenia Loli-Queru" <eloli hotmail com>]

> I disagree
> that the default size must be no bigger than that size and I also
> disagree that this is primarily the app developer's problem.

I disagree. Users don't always gonna use XFce or Metacity, window managers 
that might have the brains in the future to deal with the problem at hand. 
But if a user decides to use another wm, he should not have his gtk or qt 
apps going off the screen with no way to easily resize them down. IF these 
apps were written with 800x600 in mind, even that user of that weird wm 
would be able to use them with no fuss.

Sorry, but this IS the app's developer fault primarily. If an app developer 
does not do his research about his app's UI and how his app would be used 
and under which circumstances (especially under the very nature of 
unix/linux where many wm exist), then, that shows to me nothing but poor 
software engineering.

Having the window manager shrinking down things is one thing and a 
workaround to only a few cases. Having the app developer not knowing how to 
design a good app in the first place, it's the main problem.

I hope the Gnome HIG at least is updated to include instructions about 
window sizes for common resolutions. I have asked this 3-4 times already in 
the last 2 years. Who is responsible for the HIG here btw? I can't find 
anyone to send an email directly and have this discussed (the hig mailing 
list was full of spam the last time I checked).

Eugenia