Re: [Usability] Re: Nautilus Sendto -- opportunities for generalisation
- From: Daniele Levorato <daniele levorato infocamere it>
- Cc: usability gnome org, nautilus-list gnome org, desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [Usability] Re: Nautilus Sendto -- opportunities for generalisation
- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:58:46 +0200
Edd,
I agree with you... but even the idea of a very long context menu is not
so amazing... and it would happen if all the developers would start
using nautilus context menu...
Perhaps I'm wrong but... is it possible to let the user choose in
specific application preferences whether to put or not usefull items in
nautilus context-menu? It would solve both the opinions! For example I
would use a "Send to Blutooth device" and *surelly* an Evolution "send
via e-mail", but I don't care about F-Spot... another user could have
different choices so it would use the Preferences dialog of the specific
application to avoid it to put any item in the context menu.
Would it be a good HIG? for example: "If an application want to put
something in a file-manager context menu (ex. Nautilus, gmc), then it
has to ask the user before attempting to do so".
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 14:55, Edd Dumbill wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 13:06 +0200, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
> > You're assuming that every user installs this stuff knowingly, whereas
> > most default GNOME desktops are prepared by distro vendors.
>
> Well, they can send always send patches into me then.
>
> > > There's no point in writing another file manager-like application just
> > > to send files!
> >
> > But there's no point in cluttering context menus either. Where does it
> > stop? At the moment I have file-roller, rhythmbox and phone-manager
> > adding unrequested items to that menu. Evolution might add 'send via
> > e-mail' for each file, F-spot 'add to image library' for each directory,
> > and I won't be surprised if someday soon I see 'cook in microwave' in my
> > context menus. ;)
>
> I don't understand why you're spending so much energy telling me this.
> Let's build it the wrong way and then make it right, rather than not
> build it at all. All this effort in the discussion is frankly making me
> tired of developing anything at all. This is what Nat was talking about
> in his GUADEC keynote about not letting our inclination to do things the
> Right Way stop us doing things.
>
> I don't care that F-Spot has the context item and I don't care that
> gnome-phone-manager does it. The file manager is unquestionably the
> right place for this functionality. If it becomes a problem, Nautilus
> maintainers can solve it.
>
> Right now, this thread is making me lose the will to carry on.
>
> > > Use a 2.7 series panel and do the "Add to panel" menu item. Instead of
> > > the deep context menus it brings up a simple list.
> >
> > That might be a possibility, although I don't quite see yet how this
> > would work in practise.
>
> We never will if we argue people to the point where they've not got any
> energy to pursue ideas.
>
> This is my last post.
>
> -- Edd
>
>
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