Re: UI Refresh

["Michael Terry" <mike mterry name>]

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, at 18:56, Mathieu Jourdan wrote:
> On first backups, the Storage locations screen is not consistent with
> the list-everywhere approach.

Yeah. I couldn’t find clear advice in the HIG for preferences. Looking at the current Settings app, there are 
not many examples of text entry using the list style (which we want for folder / URL etc).

Seems like they pop up a mini dialog with old style label+entry when they need to ask for text questions.

But if you can find a good example of that done right in the list style, I’d copy the design.


> Also, I remark there is nothing asked about schedule?

For the first backup, I didn’t think it was necessary? I figured we’d just turn on auto backup if the first 
backup finishes successfully.


> One of the biggest painpoints currently is that there is no way to tell
> from the backup window if a backup is running or not. How would you
> solve this? I think the modal appearing on the mockups woul present the
> same issues as of today?

This has gotten a bit better in recent Deja Dup releases. If there is an existing operation, its modal dialog 
is shown if you open Deja Dup.

I was planning to keep that going. Alternatively, I’d be happy with an in-app solution. I don’t know how 
important detailed feedback & resuming vs cancelling are. But those are the features to balance.


> If I understand well, to exclude a file from backup, she would have to
> "add" it to the "included files", and the turn the button off? Seems not
> really straghtforward to me.

That’s fair. I liked the idea of having the standard locations that you could turn off and on. Wasn’t sure 
how best to add custom includes / excludes into that mix.

Any ideas there or do you think the standard location items  aren’t worth it?


> For what it's worth two years ago I sent to the list a couple of mockups
> here:
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mjourdan/gnome-design/master/backups/settings-integration/settings-integration.png
>
> It's approach has similarities with yours, and tried to offer some
> goodies: offer to "verify a backups" to avoid the user feeling at risk
> to erase some valid and recent data with older backups. And of course a
> loooooong-requested feature :D

I’m sorry! I see that I never replied to you. 😞

Yeah some of the same ideas for sure. Separate prefs. Browsing as a restore method. 

I like your count of how long the operation has been running.

Unfortunately, we can’t integrate with Settings (though we used to - but they now discourage that and it 
doesn’t work in a containerized world anyway).

Multiple profiles & a visible “verify” option are features I’m cool on. But that’s a different conversation 
than a UI refresh.

Prettier than our current UI for sure.