Re: [Banshee-List] can't create ipod playlists

[meeotch <mitch houseofpain org>]

Andres - thanks again for the thoughtful response.  I'll file these as 
soon as I get a free minute from work.

To follow up on #4 below:

 > >   4) If a smart playlist is based on "not played recently", and you
 > >play that playlist (as opposed to dragging it to the play queue), any
 > >song that's played immediately gets deleted from the playlist -
 > >presumably because it's no longer "not played recently".  (If you have
 > >songs in your queue, the song is inserted there - but if the queue is
 >> empty, it just disappears.)
 >
 > This is not a bug, and you even seem to explain why to yourself, 
right? :)

I think I can see that it's the intended behavior, since perhaps a 
"queue" is a thing that can show past played songs, and a "playlist" is 
not.*

The reason it tripped me up is that it seems to make it impossible to 
perform any operations on a song once it begins playing.  E.g., adding 
to a "my favorites" playlist, moving it later in the list, even just 
checking the bitrate column or answering the question "hey, what was 
that track I heard 15min ago?", etc.  Also ctrl-J stops working, which 
had me confused for a good 10 minutes until I figured out what was 
happening.

I understand that every UI has an internal logic, and tries to be 
consistent to that logic.  But if I'm being honest, I'm having a hard 
time imagining a large number of workflows (playflows?) that would 
depend on "disappearing" played songs, vs. the number of operations it 
prevents.

But then again, the workflow I'm used to is naturally going to seem 
intuitive to me - so I'm obviously biased.  (And clementine has failed 
to reproduce the functionality of trusty ole' Amarok 1.4.  So I'm stuck 
trying to approximate what I had.)

mitch

* - (Though I'll admit that the way banshee handles the queue logic 
overall is a bit confusing for a new user...  For instance, the 
seemingly inconsistent behavior regarding where disappeared tracks end 
up, mentioned in #4 above.  Also, if you double-click a playlist while 
in queue shuffle, it plays one random track from the playlist, then goes 
back to playing the queue - which I believe is also intended, but still 
seems weirder than just playing the whole playlist.)


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