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Re: [Banshee-List] can't create ipod playlists

On 20/03/14 06:03, meeotch wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  I do have libgpod4 v0.8.2-7ubunt4 installed, but
installing banshee didn't bring libgpod-cil with it, so that's not
installed at all, currently.

While we're on the topic of playlists...  Do I have the following correct?
    1) It doesn't seem to be possible to drag a song from the play queue
to a playlist


No, please file an enhancement request in bugzilla.



    2) It doesn't seem to be possible to shuffle the order of a playlist
that's not currently playing


We've never had the capability of shuffling a source, but shuffling the
playback. It could be interesting to have it, please have a think on how
would you design the UI and file an enhancement request in bugzilla.



    3) If a playlist is playing, shuffle doesn't change the order, but
rather skips around within the existing order


Oh wow, I just tested this and you seem to be right, I'm not sure how
this has been unnoticed for so long. Please file a bug and assign it to me.



    4) If a smart playlist is based on "not played recently", and you
play that playlist (as opposed to dragging it to the play queue), any
song that's played immediately gets deleted from the playlist -
presumably because it's no longer "not played recently".  (If you have
songs in your queue, the song is inserted there - but if the queue is
empty, it just disappears.)


This is not a bug, and you even seem to explain why to yourself, right? :)



So my desired behavior of having a smart "not recently played" playlist
that retains its shuffled order (for instance for exporting to an ipod)
seems to be a lost cause?


Well, if we implement what you suggested in (2), and you don't play in
Banshee the songs that you want to get transferred in your iPod (because
of (4)), then I think it should be possible.




thanks,
mitch

On 3/18/2014 2:11 PM, "Andrés G. Aragoneses" [via Banshee Media Player]
wrote:

On 06/03/14 02:13, meeotch wrote:


Two questions:  First, I seem to be unable to create playlists on my

2nd gen

Nano with banshee 2.6.1 on Linux Mint Petra, libgpod4 0.8.2-7ubuntu4.

I can create them, and they show up under the device in banshee, and

I can

populate them (only with tracks that are already on the device,

apparently)

but they're not actually on the device when I eject it, and they

don't show

up in banshee when I plug it back in.

2)  Using Ye Olde Amarok 1.4, I was able to do the following, and

I'd like

to recreate this workflow, or come up with something equally

streamlined:


a) create a smart playlist that picks songs not played in the last two
months, and orders them randomly
b) click on this playlist, and choose "sync to device", to get all

of the

songs AND the playlist transferred
c) when I run out of songs on the ipod, re-connect it, choose

"delete all",

goto step b.

I've gotten as far as creating the smart playlist in banshee - but

it orders

all the songs alphabetically, and it seems that I have to put them

in the

play queue in order to shuffle them.  (Which is a bummer, if I

happen to be

listening to something.)  Then I can drag the songs to the ipod, but

not the

playlist... Meaning that the shuffling was moot.

----------
In case anyone's wondering:  The problem with having no playlist is

if rely

on the ipod's shuffle feature, it "forgets" where it is in the list

of songs

if I plug it in to charge it, turn it off, etc.  So I end up hearing
duplicates when I start it up again.  The beauty of the smart

playlist is

that I also used it for listening in amarok - so I basically had an
uninterrupted shuffle of all my music, both at home and on the road,

that

would track plays and not repeat songs.  In the past 8 or so years,

I've

barely ever even searched for a particular album.  The music was

just On or

it was Off.  Then my (six year old Ubuntu Hardy based) system drive

crapped

out.

(I'm sort of surprised, given all of this was working in Y.O.Amarok

in like

2006, that ipod compatibility for old models like mine isn't a solved
problem for all linux players by now.  Clementine, for instance,

doesn't

have ipod playlist functionality at all - and banshee's transfer

speed to my

'pod is suuuuper slow.)


Hi Meeotch,

I've never used LinuxMint but I think it's Ubuntu/Debian-based right?
This problem reminds me of this bug I found some time ago:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684876

It turns out in the end we had to close it as NOT-GNOME because it
wasn't Banshee culprit, it was a packaging bug.

Please make sure you have an updated version of the package that
includes this fix, and if you still experience the issue after that,
file a bug:

http://banshee.fm/contribute/file-bugs/

Thanks
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