Re: [Banshee-List] can't create ipod playlists

[meeotch <mitch houseofpain org>]

    Thanks for the reply.  I do have libgpod4 v0.8.2-7ubunt4 installed,
    but installing banshee didn't bring libgpod-cil with it, so that's
    not installed at all, currently.
    
    While we're on the topic of playlists...  Do I have the following
    correct?
        1) It doesn't seem to be possible to drag a song from the play
    queue to a playlist
        2) It doesn't seem to be possible to shuffle the order of a
    playlist that's not currently playing
        3) If a playlist is playing, shuffle doesn't change the order,
    but rather skips around within the existing order
        4) If a smart playlist is based on "not played recently", and
    you play that playlist (as opposed to dragging it to the play
    queue), any song that's played immediately gets deleted from the
    playlist - presumably because it's no longer "not played recently". 
    (If you have songs in your queue, the song is inserted there - but
    if the queue is empty, it just disappears.)
    
    So my desired behavior of having a smart "not recently played"
    playlist that retains its shuffled order (for instance for exporting
    to an ipod) seems to be a lost cause?  
    
    thanks,
    mitch

On 3/18/2014 2:11 PM, "Andrés G. Aragoneses" [via Banshee Media Player] wrote:

On 06/03/14 02:13, meeotch wrote:

> Two questions:  First, I seem to be unable to create playlists on my 2nd gen
> Nano with banshee 2.6.1 on Linux Mint Petra, libgpod4 0.8.2-7ubuntu4.
>
> I can create them, and they show up under the device in banshee, and I can
> populate them (only with tracks that are already on the device, apparently)
> but they're not actually on the device when I eject it, and they don't show
> up in banshee when I plug it back in.
>
> 2)  Using Ye Olde Amarok 1.4, I was able to do the following, and I'd like
> to recreate this workflow, or come up with something equally streamlined:
>
> a) create a smart playlist that picks songs not played in the last two
> months, and orders them randomly
> b) click on this playlist, and choose "sync to device", to get all of the
> songs AND the playlist transferred
> c) when I run out of songs on the ipod, re-connect it, choose "delete all",
> goto step b.
>
> I've gotten as far as creating the smart playlist in banshee - but it orders
> all the songs alphabetically, and it seems that I have to put them in the
> play queue in order to shuffle them.  (Which is a bummer, if I happen to be
> listening to something.)  Then I can drag the songs to the ipod, but not the
> playlist... Meaning that the shuffling was moot.
>
> ----------
> In case anyone's wondering:  The problem with having no playlist is if rely
> on the ipod's shuffle feature, it "forgets" where it is in the list of songs
> if I plug it in to charge it, turn it off, etc.  So I end up hearing
> duplicates when I start it up again.  The beauty of the smart playlist is
> that I also used it for listening in amarok - so I basically had an
> uninterrupted shuffle of all my music, both at home and on the road, that
> would track plays and not repeat songs.  In the past 8 or so years, I've
> barely ever even searched for a particular album.  The music was just On or
> it was Off.  Then my (six year old Ubuntu Hardy based) system drive crapped
> out.
>
> (I'm sort of surprised, given all of this was working in Y.O.Amarok in like
> 2006, that ipod compatibility for old models like mine isn't a solved
> problem for all linux players by now.  Clementine, for instance, doesn't
> have ipod playlist functionality at all - and banshee's transfer speed to my
> 'pod is suuuuper slow.)

Hi Meeotch,

I've never used LinuxMint but I think it's Ubuntu/Debian-based right?
This problem reminds me of this bug I found some time ago:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684876

It turns out in the end we had to close it as NOT-GNOME because it
wasn't Banshee culprit, it was a packaging bug.

Please make sure you have an updated version of the package that
includes this fix, and if you still experience the issue after that,
file a bug:

http://banshee.fm/contribute/file-bugs/

Thanks


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