As you know that the GNOME.Asia Committee strive to promote GNOME in
Asia, we would like to support MOSC2011, we only have 1 month left,
as my previous email, would you please send me a summary of your
conference so I can forward it and ask for support from the
community and the Foundation?
Thanks for the support. I will summary what you mention.
Questions e.g.:
What's the theme?
Innovating The Change
Who are your potential speakers?
Our potential speaker are from LPI, Novell, Redhat and Mozilla
Any confirmed speakers?
CEO LPI Jim Lacey, Instructor from KOHA community Irma Birchall (Australia) & Robin Sheat (New Zealand), Gen Kanai (Mozilla), Cecil Su (OWASP), Patrick Beaucamp (France), Ryusuke Kajiyama (Oracle) and local speakers and special invitation Ritzatuddin Ramli Director UNIK (National Innovation Agency under Prime Minister Office).
Who will attend (as participants)?
Government staff, Lecturer/student and open source community
What's the purpose / objectives, etc?
Our objective for this years focus more on technical and want the participant know more on how open source project are develop and running. We want our participant to be developer or programmer rather to be end user. Create something innovative and new idea on open source project that can be use for open source community. Part of it we collaborate with LPI, Novell, BSDA and Redhat regarding certification. We want our community are certified and to become professional rather just put open source project just a hobby but ready for be competitor & survival on IT world.
Any preference of GNOME topics so we can get you the right GNOME
speakers?
If GNOME can provide speaker that talk about how to develop GNOME it self. Our target is for give information to our participant on how to explore GNOME project and what suppose we must know and how it works. We want our participant to join GNOME project and can be part of GNOME developer.
Regarding Open Source or Free or FOSS, if GNOME supports the
conference, please just don't remove "words" from our given
description without our notification or permission :-) thank you!
We don't have any problem with the word actually, what we mention is the name of our conference. Actually we want to put our conference to be "Malaysia Free and Open Source Conference" but advice by many agency and our sponsor that the word Free will confuse our people and will miss use by others and will be exploit by others party. We not have any problem with word free if GNOME Foundation worried about and also to others open source software or Distro because it FREEdom to choose.
Regarding goodies, we have some OpenSUSE GNOME 3.0 DVDs, do you want
some? We may also have small quantity of stickers and tshirts. How
would you plan to distribute the goodies?
Our target participant of this years is 300. Last our MOSC2010 we get 500 people but this years we constraint about budget and we collaborate with one of our top university in Malaysia is University Science of Malaysia (USM). We accept what GNOME want to give to us. Our plan to put GNOME in the picture on MOSC so our people aware that GNOME are active in Malaysia and want their to support local GNOME community. Our plan to distribute the goodies like t-shirt or sticker we will do like last years conference some questionnaire to participant, lucky draw and fill the survey and DVD we will put to their goodies bag.
Thanks!
Pockey
Pockey
On 06/05/2011 02:51 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:
Hi All,
Thanks for the concern regarding our MOSC2011. Actually we
already work 3 years now organize MOSC and we continue our
effort to make this conference happen. Our experience organize
open source conference give us some information and impact to
our citizen regrading open source software.
We decide not to argue between OSS/FOSS/FLOSS and we use
standard term and we decide to us Malaysia Open Source
Conference. Open source movement in Malaysia get huge impact
after our government start to promote open source software to
their agency and it give a positive movement to community and
we continue to support and help our government to promote free
& open source software but with expensive price to
community.
Malaysia have 2 big open source conference that we call
Malaysia Open Source Conference (MOSC) by community and Malaysia
Government Open Source Conference (MyGOSCON) by MAMPU
where MyGOSCON already happen 5 year before MOSC start at 2009.
We are the community give full support to MyGOSCON and help us
to make open source movement become reality and make us trap use
word "Free" and make most of us disappointment because all their
understanding are all free and continuously make us become like
slaves for them and all our effort and spirit to make free
& open source software become doom. Every years we fight to
promote open source software are free and we explain them free
as freedom but Malaysia minded always said it free and will be
become free and they exploit that word free and why we should
pay you?
Started with them every state every area we go are use our
own pocket money and it likely we work for them for free and
they told us "Open source software are free and will continue
free and forever will free, You are the volunteer to do this and
it your hobby". Because of them one by one our people gone and
make us fighting each others and they cant stand anymore with
this our movement and some of them fed up and some of them also
fuck the free open source software because rune their life.
Until now Malaysia citizen still insist and use statement open
source are free and free and will be free forever and ever.
Many of our past join venture events or co-organize events
are do by volunteer and somehow make them upset until when they
would be like this. Many main organizer just use us (community)
for them to get free materials, freebies or goodies that we get
from the international community or foundation some of the thing
also we use our own pocket money to make the freebies or
goodies it all about to promote and market about Free & open
source software. We thinking we will become a big community and
our way not make us big but make our community smaller every
years. Now we realize that we make wrong way and wrong approach
to our Malaysia citizen because our culture and minded are
different from other like Europe or western.
We aware that our citizen are not yet ready about Free &
Open Source Software and when come in 2009 we was called by
others government body (MDEC) that know what exactly
happen and they decide to help us to make another conference
that we called OSCONF2009 it was the 1st conference before we
change to MOSC and this conference was handle by community and
not by government. We got advice also from other big
organization that maybe we need to change and need to remove
word FREE and make it just open source conference for our
citizen don't miss understand and confuse the word but some our
community not agree to remove the word FREE and some of them
boycott the events. We want to make this continue until some day
most of our citizen already understand what meaning of FREE as
FREEDOM not FREE are always FREE.
Until now when we are want to add on the KOHA workshop to
MOSC2011 most of our participant give feedback "why your want to
charge the workshop and it fully statement at their website that
was free and suppose must be free" and some of them ask for free
ticket to get to the workshop. It not about word FREE but it
about our culture and our minded not yet same level like
western. It hard to convince everybody and some of them
always negative thinking about free & open source software.
I'm was representative from MOSC team and want to all understand
what, why, where & who we decide the change it and hope
everyone in deep heart accept it and this in one of our term
"Freedom of Change".
In the conference it self we use more word Freedom rather use
Free. We always tell every of our participant about Freedom and
our example term like Freedom of choice, Freedom about change,
Freedom for all. Most of our participant come from government
sector and community it self. So now every conference we love
use word FREEDOM and hope will be continue and hope will be
someday we will use "Freedom & Open Source Software" = FOSS
to not miss use by others big company (The big company that
always use OSS for their business) that always give negative
impact to community it self.
I`m apologies to everybody if my word offend in this mailing
list or insult your principles. This is not we want and not
our decision. We make some tough & difficult judgement so we
can move forward and not stuck before we start it. In my deep
heart this is want we want to do, To move forward and
do continuously awareness program to our citizen "that your have
freedom of change what your do and freedom to choose what you
think of it that was open source software".
P/S: It up to GNOME Foundation to make decision to help us or
not. I hope all of you give consideration about it. Regarding to
word of KOHA it self it not from us it from the Instructors
that give to us. Thanks you
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Stormy
Peters <stormy gnome org>
wrote:
Fred,
I think it is ok for people to refer to projects like Koha
and GNOME as open source. We use the words "free and open
source software" because we would like to also promote
freedom. However, they are open source as well, and if
others choose to refer to them that way for reasons of their
own, I think that is acceptable.
If GNOME decides to work with MOSC2011, we can always ask
that the term "free and open source" be used. But there's no
reason to make it sound like they have done something wrong
before we even ask!
Best,
Stormy
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:39 AM,
Frederic Muller <fredm gnome org>
wrote:
Hi!
I did find the temporary schedule which happens to
be blocked where I live (unfortunate - maybe only
temporary).
I am surprised to see that you did not understand
that GNOME is a Free Software project and that you
(your organization?) systematically remove any
reference to free software. As an example in your
introduction of Koha (the schedule is also a good
example of that from my perspective).
>From your conference website (http://www.mosc.my/koha):
"Koha is the first open-source Integrated Library
System (ILS). In use worldwide, its development is
steered by a growing community of libraries
collaborating to achieve their technology goals."
>From Koha Webiste (http://koha-community.org/):
"Koha is the first free and open source software
library automation package (ILS). Development is
sponsored by libraries of varying types and sizes,
volunteers, and support companies from around the
world."
I believe that if you want to cooperate with the
GNOME foundation and the GNOME people you will need
to make a few efforts.
At this point I don't have much more positive
comments, so I keep them for myself ;-)
Fred
On 06/03/2011 10:19 PM, Pockey Lam wrote:
Dear Mohd,
On 06/02/2011 11:53 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:
Hi Pockey & Emily,
I just want to ask about topic above. We now
preparing and organize
the biggest open source conference at
Malaysia. If any GNOME can
participate as
1) Sending speaker
2) Freebies from GNOME
Just want information if any feedback from
gnome and how i can ask for
it. I just sent to both of you regarding this
to get the information
how i can ask GNOME Foundation regarding topic
above. Thanks
Thanks for your invitation! I went to your
website, the event will be in
less than 1 month, on July 3-5, can you give me
more information as
below so I can help you to forward to the right
mailing lists to ask for
supports?
What's the theme?
Who are your potential speakers?
Any confirmed speakers?
Who will attend (as participants)?
What's the purpose / objectives, etc?
Thanks!
Pockey
Regards,
Mohd Fazli Azran
MSC MOSC 2011 Secretariat.
