Re: The best meeting time, Vote now



Hi!

I find moving the time just 1 hour early so you get to go to bed early forces part of the US team to get up a LOT early (6am) for your convenience. I think it's difficult for everyone and being a little flexible is the way to go. In fact since the meeting should last only 1 hour (it's normal that the first iteration lasted longer as we had a lot to clarify) 10pm to 11pm is really acceptable on our side of the planet (China and Taiwan). Now if this is really an issue, maybe 30 minutes change is a good compromise versus 1 hour earlier.

Thank you to consider everyone involved.

Fred

On 05/12/2010 11:40 PM, Ernest Chiang wrote:
Hi all,

Thanks Emily for listing the meeting time options :)

I collect the meeting time information with our COSCUP team members, we all vote for C as our common choice.
(Most of us have some other regular meeting or day-time work in the morning. Therefore the evening time (in Beijing/Taipei time zone) is more suitable for us.)

Another benefit of option C is most of CT members can get together in Taipei. (We have a common community gathering on every Tuesday night. It will be helpful to save discussion time:)

ernest,

2010/5/12 Emily Chen <emilychen522 gmail com>
Hi all,

We talked about changing the meeting time last night on IRC, since we are from different time zone, we can think about the find a time fit for everyone.

Check this link to see the time table:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=5&day=18&year=2010&p1=197&p2=33&p3=241&p4=64

Here I propose four meeting time:


A. UTC Time Tuesday, 01:00:00  (Beijing/taipei Tue 09:00 AM, Phoenix Mon 6:00 PM, Chicago Mon 8:00PM)
B. UTC Time Tuesday, 02:00:00  (Beijing/taipei Tue 10:00 AM, Phoenix Mon 7:00 PM, Chicago Mon 9:00PM)
C. UTC Time Tuesday, 13:00:00  (Beijing/taipei Tue 09:00 PM, Phoenix Tue 6:00 AM, Chicago Tue  8:00AM)
D. UTC Time Tuesday, 13:30:00  (Beijing/taipei Tue 09:30 PM, Phoenix Mon 6:30 AM, Chicago Tue  8:30AM)

I will choose : B
 
Please vote your preferred meeting time.

-Emily

2010/5/12 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
Dear Ernest,

Excellent! I have added asia-summit-list gnome org in this email. we can
definitely continue our discussion here.

Action items:
1) Common tagline / theme for the co-event
our suggestion: open web and mobile technologies
2) change the IRC meeting time to Tuesday morning instead? is it okay
for you?
3) Detail budget breakdown with high / low budget estimation (and
optional cost choice)
4) I will send you our CFS once it's finalized

Regards,
Pockey


Here is COSCUP Team members emails:
>
>
>       * Convenor: Jouston Huang (jouston gmail com)
>       * Program committee chair: Bob Chao (bobchao gmail com)
>       * Sponsorship lead: Rex Tsai (rex cc tsai gmail com)
>       * Web lead: medicalwei (medicalwei gmail com)
>       * Web team member: Tim (timdream gmail com)
>       * Advisors: pingooo (ping nsr yeh gmail com)
>       * Contact Window: Ernest Chiang (dwchiang gmail com)

On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 16:08 +0800, Ernest Chiang wrote:
> Dear Pockey,
>
>
> May we exchange the emails of meeting attendees yesterday?
> Then we can let each team to have their own follow-up discussions.
> Thanks!! :)
>
>
> Here is COSCUP Team members emails:
>
>
>       * Convenor: Jouston Huang (jouston gmail com)
>       * Program committee chair: Bob Chao (bobchao gmail com)
>       * Sponsorship lead: Rex Tsai (rex cc tsai gmail com)
>       * Web lead: medicalwei (medicalwei gmail com)
>       * Web team member: Tim (timdream gmail com)
>       * Advisors: pingooo (ping nsr yeh gmail com)
>       * Contact Window: Ernest Chiang (dwchiang gmail com)

>
> ??? Ernest Chiang, PMP
> http://blog.ernestchiang.com
>
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
> wrote:
>         Dear all,
>
>         Please find below the meeting notes prepared by Ernest (who is
>         the
>         contact person from COSCUP for the co-organization) for the
>         IRC chat
>         yesterday with COSCUP team. I also copied him in the email,
>         please feel
>         free to ask question and continue the discussion.
>
>         COSCUP asked a few questions at the end:
>
>         7) Answer any question from COSCUP :) or anything COSCUP may
>         want
>         to discuss(Booth team) Need GAS provide information in the
>         future (Can
>         be discussed offline.)
>
>              * Will be there posters/DM/exhibits of GAS? (booth team
>         needs to
>                arrange the booth locations and layout.)
>              * ===> Answer from us: I think it's a co-event, we should
>         share
>                the same posters / DM, for exhibitions with both logos
>         as
>                header, let's see if we can find any local community /
>         GNOME
>                developers to make one, what do u think?
>
>              * Need any power supply at GAS booth?
>              * ===> Answer from us: yes, definitely if we have booths
>
>              * Need any power supply at GAS sponsors' booth?
>              * ===> Answer from us: yes for sponsors' booth if there
>         is any
>
>         -Meeting-
>
>         Date: 5/11, 2010
>
>         Time: 22:00~ (TWN, UTC+8)
>
>         Format: IRC Meeting
>
>         Attendee:
>
>         Agenda:
>
>
>         1) Introduce core team and its responsibilities from each side
>
>         GASC side:
>
>              * Pockey Lam: GAS committee member, mainly responsible
>         for
>                marketing and promotion of the GAS event
>
>              * Emily Chen (program): start the GNOME.Asia since 2008,
>         working
>                in Sun China. GNOME foundation member and GNOME.Asia
>         Committee
>                member
>
>              * Fred: been involved in GNOME.Asia Summit since 2008
>
>              * yippi: Brian Cameron, the secretary for the GNOME
>         Foundation
>                board of directors. I am helping to provide operational
>         support
>                for organizing this event.
>
>              * Will LaShell (terral) (website): website and system
>         development,
>                founding member of the Asia Summit.
>
>
>         COSCUP Team (CT) side:
>
>                      * Convenor: Jouston Huang
>
>                      * Program committee chair: Bob Chao
>
>                      * Sponsorship lead: Rex Tsai
>
>                      * Web lead: medicalwei
>
>                      * Web team member: Tim
>
>                      * Advisors: pingooo
>
>                      * Contact Window: Ernest Chiang
>
>
>
>         2) Talk about the shared tag-line (Theme of the co-event)
>
>
>              * proposal: "open web and mobile technologies" (To be
>         discussed
>                offline.)
>
>
>         3) Discuss about website development and registration system
>
>              * Website development
>
>                      * Other than portal page, the website contents
>         are shared.
>                        (possibly by linking)
>
>                      * <pingooo>: Let me try to understand what
>         "shared" means.
>                        Will http://coscup.org/2010/program and
>                        http://gnome.asia/2010/program have identical
>         content?
>                        <PockeyLam1>: pingooo: yes, same content, maybe
>         even
>                        point to the same webpage
>                        <terral>: chihchun: that way each conference
>         can keep
>                        information specific to itself maintained
>         separately
>
>              * Registration system
>
>                      * Combine the registrations into one.
>
>                      * Adding a column to indicate the interest of
>         COSCUP and
>                        GAS sessions in registration form.
>
>              * will have another conversations afterwards.
>
>
>
>         4) Share information about sponsorship
>
>
>              * Sponsorship Open Discussion Topics:
>
>                      * Exchange CFS of both side.
>
>                              * COSCUP -
>
>          http://dl.dropbox.com/u/343256/COSCUP2010-CFS-en.pdf
>
>                              * GAS -
>
>                      * Contacted:
>
>                              * CT: Nokia, Samsung, KKBOX, Microsoft,
>         Yahoo!
>                                Taiwan, Opera Taiwan, OpenFoundry,
>         Pixnet, III,
>                                Trend Micro, Canonical, Google, Intel,
>         TTN,
>                                Cavium Networks, Linpus, IBM, Novell
>
>                              * GASC: Sun/Oracle, Mozilla, Google,
>         Intel
>
>              * Confirmed:
>
>                      * Sponsoring for co-event.
>
>                      * GAS's sponsorship levels and price tags will be
>         aligned
>                        with COSCUP's CfS.
>
>              * Issues:
>
>                      * profits shared as 50/50? (Refer to agenda
>         item#6.)
>
>
>
>         5) Share information about speakers
>
>         Information Sharing:
>
>              * (Same break time frames)
>                During the two-day joint-conference, there will be 2
>         tea breaks
>                and one lunch time each day. We need to keep these
>         three time
>                frames the same between GAS and COSCUP. Base on the
>         same three
>                break time frames, we can have different program time
>         slots for
>                GAS or COSCUP. (For example, if we have a 10:00-10:30
>         tea break,
>                both GAS and COSCUP have the same break time frame.
>         Then GAS can
>                have a 10:30-11:00 & 11:00-11:30 sessions, and COSCUP
>         has a
>                10:30-11:30 session.)
>
>              * (Opening & Closing)
>                We plan to have joint-opening at 09:10-09:20 on Day1,
>         10-min
>                duration, both GASC/CT team members can have a short
>         speech.
>                Closing will be at 17:00-17:30 on Day2. We can discuss
>         if we
>                have closing together or separately. (Based on the
>         history, we
>                have known that CT's closing may be very . and would
>         like to
>                share the joy with GAS:)
>
>              * (Program committee schedule)
>                1. COSCUP CfP is online and sending.
>                (http://coscup.org/2010/en/programs)
>                2. 6/18: deadline of CfP
>                3. 7/4: announce joint-conference agenda/program
>
>              * (Conference room arrangement)
>                There are 4 different size conference rooms. We propose
>         to
>                assign sessions to rooms based on popularity of
>         sessions,
>                determined by the number of registrants that pick a
>         session
>                during registration. Basically, we may not have
>         dedicated two
>                rooms for GAS and the other two for COSCUP. We can
>         arrange
>                meeting room based on popularity of sessions each
>         half-day.
>                (Event staff team will help to change/update
>         doorplates.)
>
>
>         Program Open Discussion Topics:
>
>              * plenary talks
>
>                      * In the joint-conference proposal, it mentioned
>         about
>                        "Plenary talks that span 2 tracks". It's also
>         possible
>                        to "span 4 tracks" which may be helpful for
>         sponsorship
>                        or marketing. Let's keep it as a open-mind
>         discussion
>                        topic. If any of us (GASC or CT) may need one
>                        span-4-tracks speech, the program committee of
>         both side
>                        can discuss the practicability. :)
>
>                      * 3 plenary talks and not more than 4 plenary
>         talks. (only
>                        for diamond sponsor)
>
>                      * scheduled 45 minutes for each plenary talk
>         (normal talk
>                        is 30 minutes, BTW)
>
>
>
>         6) Discuss about budgeting
>
>              * COSCUP budget:
>
>          http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvhuMZjf1PYpdDA3Y1o4SmVtMVNySkFCemN1TlB1ZkE&hl=zh_TW
>
>                      * [TODO] we can mark which items are optional
>
>              * <yippi>: perhaps a weighted formula would work best.
>         For
>                example. Perhaps 50% of the profits are split 50/50 and
>         50% of
>                the profits are divided by which team got the
>         sponsorship money.
>                <yippi>: or perhaps sponsorship money from
>         organizations which
>                are known to donate to both events are split 50/50, and
>                sponsorship money from events that are not typical
>         sponsors of
>                both events go to the organization that got the sponsor
>
>                      * The formula proposal would be discussed offline
>         by email
>                        list.
>
>
>
>         7) Answer any question from COSCUP :) or anything COSCUP may
>         want
>         to discuss(Booth team) Need GAS provide information in the
>         future (Can
>         be discussed offline.)
>
>              * Will be there posters/DM/exhibits of GAS? (booth team
>         needs to
>                arrange the booth locations and layout.)
>
>              * Need any power supply at GAS booth?
>
>              * Need any power supply at GAS sponsors' booth?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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