Dear all,
An update: Pingooo and its COSCUP team from Taiwan will submit a
proposal to us by end of the month :)
Cheers,
Pockey
-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: pingooo <ping nsr yeh gmail com>
To: Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
Cc: Emily Chen <emilychen522 gmail com>, Frederic Muller
<fred beijinglug org>, Jouston Huang <jouston gmail com>, Rex Tsai
<rex cc tsai gmail com>, lman <lman ugadigital com>, KC Chen
<kc free gmail com>, COSCUP <coscup googlegroups com>
Subject: COSCUP team decides to propose for a joint conference
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:56:47 +0800
Hi Pockey,
As title, the COSCUP team have reached a conclusion that we'll file a
proposal to Gnome.Asia Summit Committee on having GAS and COSCUP as
joint conferences on 8/14 - 8/15 this year. We'll send you our proposal
by March 29, hopefully earlier.
If you have any suggestions on the proposal writing or anything, please
let me know.
Looking forward to a pleasant and fruitful collaboration with all of
you!
cheers,
pingooo
p.s. This mail is CCed to the whole COSCUP team.
2010/3/8 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
Dear Pingooo,
Sure! we will wait for your feedback and look forward to work
with you
guys :)
Pockey
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 02:06 +0800, pingooo wrote:
> Hi Pockey,
>
>
> Time flies. I know the time I promised you has come and gone,
but I'm
> sorry that we haven't reached a final conclusion yet. I'll get
back to
> you in a few days.
>
>
> pingooo
>
> 2010/2/25 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
> Dear pingooo!
>
> Thanks a lot and we wait for your feedback then :)
>
> Regards,
> Pockey
>
>
> On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 17:10 +0800, pingooo wrote:
> > Hi Pockey,
> >
> >
> > That's cool.
> >
> >
> > Rex and I have summarized what we have discussed and
agreed
> upon, and
> > sent it to the whole COSCUP team for reality checks
on
> execution. This
> > is like the pre-launch checks in a NASA control
room. Every
> station
> > has to report back "go" for the launch to happen.
:)
> >
> >
> > I'll let you know the outcome by the end of next
week.
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > pingooo
> >
> > 2010/2/24 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
> > Hi Pingooo,
> >
> > Got you! In this case, we would rather let
the local
> organizer
> > (you)
> > propose and be suggested in the proposal :)
as long
> as all the
> > rooms
> > would be "rather" full ;) I guess we will
have no
> problem.
> >
> > And I don't think we mind to be noticed last
min for
> which
> > room we will
> > be as well... as long as in the venues it is
well
> written so
> > audiences
> > are easy to find out where to go.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pockey
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 22:14 +0800, pingooo
wrote:
> > > Hi Pockey,
> > >
> > > 2010/2/24 Pockey Lam
<pockey beijinglug org>
> > > Dear Pingooo and other COSCUP core
> members,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your
> understanding!
> > >
> > > I totally agreed that we should
agree on
> the
> > principles in
> > > advance :)
> > > and if you are comfortable with
our offer,
> sure
> > please go
> > > ahead!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cool that we agree on this principle!
:)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For "By the way, the venue we're
looking
> into has
> > one big room
> > > (~500
> > > seats) and 3 smaller rooms (100+
seats
> each). About
> > the 3
> > > plenary talks
> > > of Gnome.Asia Summit, do you need
them to
> be shown
> > to all 4
> > > rooms, or
> > > just the 2 rooms used for
Gnome.Asia
> Summit?"
> > >
> > >
> > > - Usually keynotes will only be
presented
> in the
> > "one big
> > > room" while no
> > > other talks should be hosted in
other
> smaller rooms
> > at the
> > > same time. In
> > > this case, we wish the keynotes (3
plenary
> talks)
> > should be in
> > > the big
> > > room, please let me know if I am
wrong ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > I should've mentioned that the venue has
the
> capability of
> > > broadcasting the big room event to other
rooms, so
> we don't
> > have to
> > > pack 600 - 700 people in a 500 seat room.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think this is a question on the
definition of
> "plenary" in
> > the
> > > 4-track joint conference. COSCUP has
plenary talks
> for a few
> > sponsors
> > > at the highest level. To disambiguate
things,
> let's call it
> > "super
> > > plenary" when there is no programs in 3
other
> rooms. An
> > "ordinary
> > > plenary" would only vacate the program of
the
> other room in
> > the same
> > > conference - so Gnome.Asia Summit can have
> programs while a
> > COSCUP
> > > plenary is going on, and vice versa.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think "super plenary" is very
prestigious for
> obvious
> > reasons. It
> > > has impact on the program of both
conferences -
> besides
> > taking time
> > > away from technical talks, both
conferences have
> to
> > absolutely sync on
> > > time. I'm not sure how to handle it yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Since the room sizes are drastically
different, we
> intend to
> > ask
> > > audiences to pick the track they want to
attend
> during
> > registration,
> > > and award the big room to the track with
the most
> picks. In
> > other
> > > words, we won't know which rooms will be
used for
> Gnome.Asia
> > Summit
> > > tracks until the registration is closed.
Is that
> okay?
> > >
> > >
> > > pingooo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pockey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 20:58 +0800,
pingooo
> wrote:
> > > > 2010/2/24 pingooo
> <ping nsr yeh gmail com>
> > > > +CC COSCUP core team
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Pockey,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To accelerate the
discussion,
> I'm CCing
> > the core
> > > team of
> > > > COSCUP here. My hope is
to get
> all
> > potential
> > > showstoppers
> > > > elaborated and mutually
> agreeable
> > solutions found
> > > before
> > > > bringing this topic to
the whole
> COSCUP
> > team. At
> > > that stage,
> > > > we'll file a proposal if
all
> leaders of
> > various
> > > tasks are
> > > > comfortable with
executing the
> proposal. I
> > hope you
> > > can
> > > > understand the reason
why we
> have to do it
> > this way.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On to your question on
budget.
> To have a
> > joint
> > > conference of A
> > > > and B together, there
will be
> costs that
> > are
> > > specific to
> > > > conference A, conference
B, and
> shared
> > costs. I
> > > think it is
> > > > reasonable that each
committee
> raises
> > funds to cover
> > > its own
> > > > specific costs like
speaker's
> travel
> > expenses, and
> > > split the
> > > > shared costs like
revenue, food,
> > conference booklet,
> > > and so
> > > > on. We can negotiate
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > s/revenue/venue/ :p
> > > >
> > > > whether it should be a
50-50
> split, some
> > other
> > > percentages, or
> > > > best effort and good
will at a
> later time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you agree with this
> principle, I don't
> > worry too
> > > much if
> > > > you can meet 5K or 10K.
I think
> we can
> > manage. :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > By the way, the venue
we're
> looking into
> > has one big
> > > room
> > > > (~500 seats) and 3
smaller rooms
> (100+
> > seats each).
> > > About the
> > > > 3 plenary talks of
Gnome.Asia
> Summit, do
> > you need
> > > them to be
> > > > shown to all 4 rooms, or
just
> the 2 rooms
> > used for
> > > Gnome.Asia
> > > > Summit?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > > pingooo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2010/2/22 Pockey Lam
> > <pockey beijinglug org>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Pingooo,
> > > >
> > > > Happy New
Year :)
> > > >
> > > > After discussion
with
> the board
> > members:
> > > >
> > > > Actually our
only
> concern is about
> > the tight
> > > timing to
> > > > get sponsor, but
> > > > we still believe
in the
> potential
> > of having
> > > a good
> > > > event together
with
> > > > COSCUP. If we
cannot
> meet the
> > target budget
> > > on our
> > > > side, we believe
that
> > > > we always find
ways to
> cut budget
> > or have
> > > less tracks.
> > > >
> > > > Knowing that
your target
> budget is
> > 30K USD,
> > > while half
> > > > is 15K USD, if
we
> > > > can only meet
let's say
> 5K or 10K,
> > how would
> > > you
> > > > propose to
organize the
> > > > event together?
maybe we
> can
> > discuss about
> > > this
> > > > possibility
first?
> > > >
> > > > Look forward to
your
> reply!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Pockey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun,
2010-02-14 at
> 13:03 +0800,
> > pingooo
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Pockey,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Happy Chinese
New
> Year!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The acting
leader of
> the COSCUP
> > team, Rex
> > > Tsai, has
> > > > evaluated the
> > > > > recap that you
and I
> wrote.
> > We're going to
> > > have a
> > > > team-wide
discussion
> > > > > soon. However,
we
> found a
> > potential
> > > showstopper.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We're going to
have
> COSCUP on
> > 2010/8/14 -
> > > 2010/8/15.
> > > > The date is
fixed
> > > > > for many
reasons. Is
> the date
> > acceptable
> > > for
> > > > Gnome.Asia
Summit 2010?
> > > > > If not, I'm
sorry that
> we will
> > not be able
> > > to file a
> > > > proposal on
other
> > > > > dates.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I know you are
> concerned about
> > the lead
> > > time for
> > > > getting
sponsors. I
> > > > > don't know
much about
> > international
> > > sponsors. From
> > > > local companies
and
> > > > > global
companies with
> branches
> > in Taiwan,
> > > we were
> > > > able to secure
19
> > > > > sponsors with
3.5
> months of lead
> > time for
> > > COSCUP
> > > > 2009. I estimate
that
> > > > > we will have
about 4.5
> months of
> > lead time
> > > this
> > > > year.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > pingooo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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